Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 25 February 2007

Various big media television networks ^ | 25 February 2007 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Alas Babylon!]

The Talk Shows

Sunday, February 25th, 2007

Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:

FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; Govs. Rick Perry of Texas and Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania.

MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Carl Levin, D-Mich.

FACE THE NATION (CBS): California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger; former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.

THIS WEEK (ABC): Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; former President Carter; actor Patrick Dempsey.

LATE EDITION (CNN) : Sen. Sam Brownback, R-Kan.; Iraq's national security adviser, Mowaffak al-Rubaie; former Secretaries of State Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright; Reps. Jane Harman, D-Calif., and Duncan Hunter, R-Calif.; investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.

[MNJohnnie]

It is like a Saturday Nite Live skit with no laugh track!!

Unfortunately they are not being funny, they are serious. {Good to see you :-)}

[BusterBear]

Talk about priorities. Balkan & Darfur ok for sending troops, but not for Iraq or Iran.

That's just it. If the engagement is unrelated to our national interests , then it is a noble one. However, if there is some correlation between military action and our national interests, then that is greedy, selfish, imperialist, and EVIL. The only military engagements that are to be permitted are those that have nothing to do with our national interests.

[anita]

Brit Hume?

Questions for dem. debates usually prepared by whichever group conducts those debates. Brit just get to ask those questions.

[jackv]

bj refused to pardon one of geffen's friends he claims was wrongly convicted of murder. He then pardons marc rich, which really ticked off geffen.

[Nekman]

I don't know what is worse,Levin being a senator,or the fact that this slimeball is one of MY senators......ARRRRRRGHHHHHHH!

[johnny7]

Timmy's voice was so soft - the conversation sounded like they were buds having casual conversation on a road trip.

Of course... he's speaking to gravitas with a capital (D)! I hope they get the stink out'a that set when the two of them leave.

[Morgan in Denver]

That and he's too new for Hillary to have his FBI file already.

[MNJohnnie]

wonder when white guilt will subside. What is the shelf life?

Probably until most of the Worst Generation finally pass on. I am betting on some time around 2045.

[AliVeritas]

Note: Article below before the university bombing

(Strange how they bomb mosques, hospitals and universities... one would think terrorists want to stay in the 7th century, but that's just me. Who did the pope quote again re: show me something new?)

Shhhh... The Surge is Working
http://townhall.com/columnists/PatrickRuffini/2007/02/24/shhhh_the_surge_is_working

What's wrong with this article?
800 civilian contractors killed in Iraq
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0700world/tm_headline=800-civilian-contractors-killed-in-iraq&method=full&objectid=18670043&siteid=50082-name_page.html

What's wrong with this one? And this is the OMBUDSMAN.
Make sure you read the last paragraph and tell me the association.

Covert Question, Open Controversy
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/23/AR2007022301726.html

In case you missed it:

Clinton Fights to Keep Impeachment Taboo
After Spat, Campaigns Know to Expect Swift Reprisal for Any Hint of the Scandal

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has a new commandment for the 2008 presidential field: Thou shalt not mention anything related to the impeachment of her husband.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/24/AR2007022401166.html

Oh, blame Wolfson
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/02/hillarity_wolfs.html

Did you see these re: AP having to dig up Romney's great-grandfather/polygamy to smear him?

... And Brigham Young's Great-Great-Great-Grandson Won A Super Bowl
http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/archives/009257.php

Guilt By Associated Press
http://bluecrabboulevard.com/2007/02/25/guilt-by-associated-press/

Rut Roh... even the left comments:
To the MSM: Stop this shit
http://www.reachm.com/amstreet/archives/2007/02/24/to-the-msm-stop-this-shit/
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Dan Riehl comments on the NYTs worry re: Al Q (hmmm)
NY Times Has No Clue On Al Qaeda
http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2007/02/ny_times_has_no.html

For my fellow intel folks:
Pakistan: A Bajaur 'peace deal' is coming (Yeah, ok Bill)
http://billroggio.com/archives/2007/02/pakistan_a_bajaur_pe.php

[samantha]

This is all good news as far as I can see. Geffen has so much money he can buy and sell the Clintons a dozen times over. I remember when Cher used to date Geffen, he was pretty wealthy even then. I have been hearing for years that he is "Gay" Geffen. Of course in Hollywood that is like saying you breathe. This is going to get really ugly before it is over. Get that Popcorn supply in, the next year will be like watching a lighter version of "24".

[AliVeritas]

There are many articles on the 'Boreacle' today (Gore), of course, I wouldn't do that to you.

Check this out at the break:

Once Again, Neo-Copperheads Rule the Democratic Roost
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

And this from yesterday, in case you missed it:
St. Louis Palestinian Immigrant Indicted for Massing Arms

same page.

[eeevil conservative]

YES! it isn't funny-- it is CHILLING!

[BusterBear]

What utter pathetic scum. The ONLY time they EVER care about the Military is when they can use dead American soldiers as political propaganda props. The level of utter imbecility and complete unmitigated demagoguery and cheap fraudulent emotional hysteric these whores are stooping to is simply without ANYTHING even remotely resembling intellectual, or moral, honesty.

That's the best description of the media I've seen anywhere.

[lawdude]

"FNS badly need a make-over. (Including host & panel)."

For sure and certain!

[eeevil conservative]

okay-

for all you the least bit interested- here are some important links to the TRUTH about the 14th Amendment and the "anchor baby" MYTH!

http://pocusa.info/NLArchive21_14thAmndt.html

http://pocusa.info/NLArchive22_14thAmndt.html

[eeevil conservative]

Thank you!

yes- yes we are!

;-)

[AliVeritas]

Don't be fooled, Hill and the 12th imam will be on the same ticket... it's a ploy to get all the money.

[AliVeritas]

Ummm... I meant Obama.

[MNJohnnie]

He doesn't see the irony of it all though, does he. We are fighting and killing lots of al-Qaida in Iraq, which keeps them busy and makes some of them dead. This is a GOOD thing. But the dems want to get us out and take the pressure OFF of them so they can WHAT...why plot further attacks on us, of course.

Well since they keep wanting to have this same argument, in honor of Senator Levin's gross mental incompetence, I will explain it again.


Dear Senator Levin;

Why Iraq

One of the really infuriating things in modern politics is the level of disinformation, misinformation, demagoguery and out right lying going on about the mission in Iraq. Democrats have spent the last 3+ years lying about Iraq out of a political calculation. The assumption is that the natural isolationist mindset of the average American voter, linked to the inherent Anti Americanism (what is misnamed the "Anti War movement") of the more feverish Democrat activists (especially those running the US's National "News" media) would restore them to national political dominance. The truth is the Democrat Party Leadership has simply lacked the courage to speak truth to whiners. The truth is that even if Al Gore won the 2000 election and 09-11 still happened we would be doing the EXACT same things in Iraq we are doing now.

Based on the political situation in the region left over from the 1991 Gulf War plus the domestic political consensus built up in BOTH parties since 1991 as well as fundamental military strategic laws, there was NO viable strategic choice for the US but to take out Iraq after finishing the initial operations in Afghanistan.

To start with Saddam's Iraq was our most immediate threat. We could NOT commit significant military forces to another battle with Saddam hovering undefeated on our flank nor could we leave significant forces watching Saddam. The political containment of Iraq was breaking down. That what Oil for Food was all about. Oil for Food was an attempt by Iraq to break out of it's diplomatic isolation and slip the shackles the UN Sanctions put on it's military. There there was the US Strategic position to consider.

The War on Islamic Fascism is different sort of war. in facing this Asymmetrical threat, we have a hidden foe, spread out across a geographically diverse area, with covert sources of supply. Since we cannot go everywhere they hide out, in fact often cannot even locate them until the engage us, we need to draw them out of hiding into a kill zone.

Iraq is that kill zone. That is the true brilliance of the Iraq strategy. We draw the terrorists out of their world wide hiding places onto a battlefield they have to fight on for political reasons (The "Holy" soil of the Arabian peninsula) where they have to pit their weakest ability (Conventional Military combat power) against our greatest strength (ability to call down unbelievable amounts of firepower) where they will primarily have to fight other forces (the Iraqi Security forces) in a battlefield that is mostly neutral in terms of guerrilla warfare. (Iraqi-mostly open terrain as opposed to guerrilla friendly areas like the mountains of Afghanistan or the jungles of SE Asia).

Did any of the critics of liberating Iraq ever look at a map? Iraq, for which we had the political, legal and moral justifications to attack, is the strategic high ground of the Middle East. A Geographic barrier that severs ground communication between Iran and Syria apart as well as providing another front of attack in either state or into Saudi Arabia if needed.

There were other reasons to do Iraq but here is the strategic military reason we are in Iraq. We have taken, an maintain the initiative from the Terrorists. They are playing OUR game on ground of OUR choosing.

Problem is Counter Insurgency is SLOW and painful. Often a case of 3 steps forward, two steps back. One has to wonder if the American people have either the emotional maturity, nor the intellect" to understand. It's so much easier to spew made for TV slogans like "No Blood for Oil" or "We support the Troops, bring them home" or dumbest of all "We are creating terrorists" then to actually THINK.

Westerners in general, and the US citizens in particular seem to have trouble grasping the fundamental fact of this foe. These Islamic Fascists have NO desire to co-exist with them. The extremists see all this PC posturing by the Hysteric Left as a sign that we are weak. Since they want us dead, weakness encourages them. There is simply no way to coexist with people who completely believe their "god" will reward them for killing us.

So we can covert to Islam, die or kill them. Iraq is about killing enough of them to make the rest of the Jihadists realize we are serious. They same way killing enough Germans, Italians and Japanese eliminated the ideologies of Nazism, Fascism and Bushido.

Americans need to understand how Bin Laden and his ilk view us. In the Arab world the USA is considered a big wimp. We have run away so many times. Lebanon, the Kurds, the Iraqis in 1991, the Iranians, Somalia, Clinton all thru the 1990s etc etc etc. The Jihadists think we will run again. In fact they are counting on it. That way they can run around screaming "We beat the American just like the Russians, come join us in Jihad" and recruit the next round of "holy warriors". Iraq is also a show place where we show the Muslim world that there are a lines they cannot cross. On 9-11-01 they crossed that line and we can, and will, destroy them for it -

If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Winston Churchill