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An excellent post FRiend, my first reaction was to see if you would like me to drop ship a few bottles of Absorbine Jr. to you for your hands and fingers, that's a LOT o' typing pal! lol

You hit the major issues about Giuliani and I mentioned in another thread that one reason I think we're seeing this frenzy about Rudy Guiliani is mostly due to the combination of his 9/11 image and the fact that he is a very talented speaker, he knows how to deliver a powerful speech, and that is a vital tool that no candidate can be without.

(Even though he is a Democrat, I sadly recall the somewhat lack of exciting speechmaking talent in Senator John Glenn, who should have been able to parlay his positive image as the first American to orbit the Earth and one of the original Mercury 7 astronauts into a successful presidential run for the White House. But listening to him deliver a speech was painful, I felt bad for him.)

But back to topic, Rudy Guiliani also has an extra advantage over any other Republican candidate, which is FIRST name recognition. You say 'RUDY' and 99 out of 100 people are going to know who you're talking about, just as when you say 'HILLARY', those same people know exactly who Mrs. Bill Clinton is, (and many of those people will make the sign of the Cross and reach for a chunk o' garlic, lol)

But name recognition and great speechmaking abilities aren't enough.

That is why I'm going for the workhorse, not the showhorse, and supporting Congressman Duncan Hunter of California.

"But name recognition and great speechmaking abilities aren't enough"

One important downside to "name recognition" is that once the views of a candidate on issues are well known everyone knows exactly who not to vote for.

Jim Zumbo was very well known and popular in gun and hunting circles. Now that his real views came out his career is over.

Thank you, mkjessup.

You say 'RUDY' and 99 out of 100 people are going to know who you're talking about, just as when you say 'HILLARY', those same people know exactly who Mrs. Bill Clinton is . . .

This is what makes presidential elections these days so pathetic. We've packaged candidates whose primary "quality" is that they've got name (and that's just first name recognition.