[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

That is where people like you get it wrong. He said no to Petraeus, the general that wanted the extra troops to assist our soldiers there. He said our troops do not need the reinforcements to win.

Answer my Question:

Do you believe it constitutes a "victory" to leave in Power a Government of Iraq which harbors self-confessed, and even Convicted, Anti-American Terrorists in their Ruling Coalition? How is that a "victory"?

Yes, or No?

[jrooney]

Victory is a stable democratic governement in the middle east where its citizens can go vote for its choice of elected leaders. We have elected leaders in this country that would side with terrorists over or own government, so your argument carries no weight.

As a former marine and damn proud of it, Ron Paul will never get my vote. Never. As you saw on the other thread you posted the other day for Ron Paul, there are many freepers that feel that way, and many that would have voted for him before his no vote on the surge. He will neve make it to higher office.