Ron Paul Honored as "Taxpayers' Friend" for Tenth Consecutive Year

US House of Representatives -- Texas 14th District ^ | February 21, 2002 | US House Press Releases

[Publius Valerius]

Don't get me wrong--I think that Bush did some good things on the tax front--but I think he left A LOT on the table.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

By the way -- not that I mind, there's 1 or 2 on the list besides you (jmc813, maybe someone else) -- but why do you (as a Hunter supporter) want to be pinged on the Ron Paul list? Is he your "second choice"?

Hunter is probably my "second choice" if I had to choose (I really don't expect Tancredo to stay in long), but I'm so impressed with Ron that I'm not thinking about #2 right now.

Just curious. :-)

[capt. norm]

I frankly care more about the thousands of young Americans who've been wounded or killed while standing in the middle of the barbarian battles between Shiites and Sunnis.

Did you know that more Americans are killed, here, by illegal aliens than are killed in Iraq.....it's not even close and these are the American citizens, civilians that they have pledged to protect.

Why haven't our "heroes" in Congress (who get off on making a strictly symbolic vote) ever done anything about that. Political expediency and political correctness make the Iraq situation a more attractive flag to wave. And the illegal aliens are becoming a "protected species".

The Iraq resolution was just a "show" vote so those clowns could posture, flex their muscles and look electable. There is money for them in it 'cause you can soak up some anti-war donors and their check-books. Soros is one example of such a donor.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Your Iraq war information is from liberal sources and you can't even get the MIA/POW issue right.

My Iraq war information can be sourced from a number of different news reports. Next thread, it will be, and then you won't have your favorite Logical Fallacy to throw around any more. Hah, hah, hah.

And, Ron Paul is one of only two co-sponsors of the POW/MIA resolution.
There may be other work behind the scenes, but that's just speculation.

[DreamsofPolycarp]

1 plus 1 = 2 for the simple minded.

Roger that. /s

[Drumbo]

Your copy and paste routine is old - I've read it all before.

What I said was that Ron Paul wasted taxpayer's money supporting worthless non-binding liberal legislation.

You may address that, or refrain from addressing me with your redundant broken record c&p routine; it's annoying and Petty.

If Ron Paul wants to send President Bush a message, he should pay him a visit or use the telephone, not lend his support to the party of opposition to all conservative values, demoralizing and undermining our troops along the way and bolstering our enemies - all the while wasting taxpayer's funds, which is the point I made. I could care less who is ruling Iraq and refuse to browse to the liberal propaganda links you repeatedly post each day without variation.

You said earlier that this topic deals with taxes - so DEAL WITH IT!

[jrooney]

No responsible freeper would ever post any information from liberal sourcing as facts because it is tainted with untruthful biased information. Since you have done it before and called on it a few days ago and did it today, reflects upon you, and not well.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I said you told some lies. You did.
I didn't call you a "damn liar". That's a child's-tantrum violation of Forum Rules right there, when you have to resort to that sort of personal attack.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Mm hmm. Whatever. You're just upset you won't be able to complain about my sources next time -- you'll actually have to deal with the Facts Presented.

And you can't.

[jrooney]

You called me a liar today, did I kneejerk react like you? No. Forum rule spouter, you sound like a whiner. Cowboy up.

[George W. Bush]

I like Ron Paul but I think he's seriously wrong on the war in Iraq.

I think you should consider that our earliest military engagements were with the Muslims. There has been throughout our history a disconnect from the reality of Islam and its evil influence.

Ron Paul has a real point. Our 'government' in Iraq is fundamentally just our favored group of terrorists who are supposedly fighting the bad terrorists. And Ron Paul, unlike Bush and Cheney and all of the neo-cons, has seen real combat as a surgeon and places a certain value on the lives of our soldiers. If he is correct (and there is strong reason to believe he is), then the failed neocon fantasy of a liberal democratic Iraq was a neo-con fantasy over which we have squandered 3000 of our troops and damaged our relations with many other countries including some of our most loyal allies, particularly in the Anglosphere.

It's about tribalism and ancient vendettas and a degrading barracks religion (sometimes called by W. a Religion Of Peace). But Ron Paul is historically accurate and his assessment of our current puppet regime in Iraq is consistent with all we know of these countries and the despots and mullahs who persecute their populations.

Ron Paul is hardly alone in this. It is why Bush Senior and James Baker and Kissinger and Eagleburger and many other foreign policy experts supported ejecting Saddam from Kuwait from Saddam but wisely avoided deposing him. Those cooler heads, unlike the neo-con ideologues now in power, knew that there were no 'good guys' in Islam, knew that the religion and the culture it spawns is an eternal enemy of liberty and decency. And Saddam, evil as he was, contained the inherent tendency toward civil war between the three major factions there. He was evil but he did keep the peace. Now we have the tiger by the tail and are rightly afraid to let go of it.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Ron Paul wasted taxpayer's money supporting worthless non-binding liberal legislation.

Actually, if you look at what Congress spends every minute when they are voting on actual Fiscal Policy, Ron Paul probably saved money by voting on a non-fiscal, non-binding resolution.

Ron Paul often votes for "National Carrot Farmers Day" and other feel-good trivilaties with no price tag attached. It uses up time when Congress could be voting on Spending Increases which do have multi-billion dollar price tag attached.

It's almost always a good day for taxpayers when Congress accomplishes nothing.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

Oh, I said you lied. You did.
I didn't call you a "damn liar", though. That's uncalled for.

Certainly I assume you're not any sort of Christian, if you call somebody a "damn anything". But I am Christian, and it offends me.

[DreamsofPolycarp]

No responsible freeper would ever post any information from liberal sourcing as facts because it is tainted with untruthful biased information

Do you have ANY idea how stupid this statement is?

[Calpernia]

I read alot of Ron Paul's writings. I like various editorieals of his on my blog: http://justwhatithink.com/blog/index.php?y=2006&m=10

Gold, Dollars, and Federal Reserve Mischief

The End of Dollar Hegemony

He is spoken of often on a radio show I advertise with, Derry Brownfield Show.

I chose to back Duncan Hunter over Paul due to the WOT. I'm still trying to figure out why Paul is against cleaning up the mess that has been created since WW2. I honestly don't get it.

I'm hoping Paul will still run if one of the RINOs gets the backing over Hunter. I would vote Paul easily over McCain, Giuliani or Romney.

[jrooney]

Don't start playing the Christinaity card because you do not always live it yourself on your posts. Please, that is pretty pathetic and hypocritical. Once do as I say not as I do. A liberal tactic indeed. Don't assume anything because you do not know. BTW not very Christian of you. :)

[George W. Bush]

If Ronny the coward had his way, Saddam would stil be in power today to murder and rape the innocent. That is Ron Paul.

That is also Bush Senior, James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Lawrence Eagleburger and Colin Powell, just to name the ones that are clearly in opposition and have been all along. They don't oppose publicly but they have made it clear that they did not agree when consulted and they are increasingly less silent about the mistakes that were made. Not being disloyal to Bush but they do have their own beliefs based on long experience. Against those people and their foreign policy acumen, especially in the Mideast, stack up the wimpy neo-cons, Bush, Cheney, and Condi.

I think I'll take the old heads of GOP foreign policy, you know, the ones who actually have had real successes in foreign policy and coalition building.

Moreover, the real problem with Iraq is not that we couldn't beat an Arab army. After all, only the French have ever lost to one (and even them only once). The problem is that it was never a war as much as deposing a dictator and engaging in nation-building in the rockiest soil imaginable, purchased with the cost of American soldiers' blood.

I think the verdict is likely to be that it was not worth and could never be worth it. They're Muslims. The first thing they'll do with a democracy is to destroy it and revert to their totalitarian ways, continuing under the spell of their evil and degrading barracks religion.

[jrooney]

No I don't but I realize how stupid you look by thinking it is wrong.

[George W. Bush]

Ron Paul did not "turn his back on the troops". He was consistantly against the war.

I think it is important to recognize that he did vote to authorize the Afghan invasion. As far as I can tell, he still support the original mission there.

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

I'm judging you by your actions. I don't object to the word "damn", it's a Bible word -- and for that matter, I don't know anywhere in the Bible that says any so-called "four letter word" is inherently sinful, but I try to observe social proprieties out of consideration.

I object to applying the word "damn" to a human being created in the image of God (including me). That is UnChristian, and I will object to it.