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If Ronny the coward had his way, Saddam would stil be in power today to murder and rape the innocent. That is Ron Paul.

That is also Bush Senior, James Baker, Henry Kissinger and Lawrence Eagleburger and Colin Powell, just to name the ones that are clearly in opposition and have been all along. They don't oppose publicly but they have made it clear that they did not agree when consulted and they are increasingly less silent about the mistakes that were made. Not being disloyal to Bush but they do have their own beliefs based on long experience. Against those people and their foreign policy acumen, especially in the Mideast, stack up the wimpy neo-cons, Bush, Cheney, and Condi.

I think I'll take the old heads of GOP foreign policy, you know, the ones who actually have had real successes in foreign policy and coalition building.

Moreover, the real problem with Iraq is not that we couldn't beat an Arab army. After all, only the French have ever lost to one (and even them only once). The problem is that it was never a war as much as deposing a dictator and engaging in nation-building in the rockiest soil imaginable, purchased with the cost of American soldiers' blood.

I think the verdict is likely to be that it was not worth and could never be worth it. They're Muslims. The first thing they'll do with a democracy is to destroy it and revert to their totalitarian ways, continuing under the spell of their evil and degrading barracks religion.