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To: MHalblaub

Evolutionist use nothing but circular reasoning which is self perpetuating! Thats how and nothing else that they come up with for an old earth. Dating dont prove it (i.e.(carbon/argon/geologic column) evolutionists use continius circular logic to adamantaly "prove" their previously determined outcome, because of the preference of those who develop and maintain their philosophical system.

No global flood you say?

Polystrate fossils--- found all over the globe with roots broken off. Rupkes observation.

Fossils--- usually have to be covered quickly by catastrophic means. rapid petrafication of wood.

Clastic dikes--- they go right through horizontal sedimentary strata

Mt St. Helens---which created canyons 17 miles long and up to 140ft deep in hours

Paolouse Canyon--- 300 to 500 ft deep. in 1-2 days

shows that it doesnt take long to create canyons!

Spontaneus sorting of layers-

Turbidity currents-

Extensive strata and pancake layering-

They found whale skeletons in michigan 440 ft above sea level and in vermont 500ft above sea level in montreal quebec 600 ft above sea level.

Marine fossils in the mountains---

Frozen Mamoths---

Fissure in the rocks---

Erratic boulders---

Black sea speaks---

worldwide chaos and out of order fossils---

Dr. John R. Hornet--- in digging for dinosaurs stated judging from the various pits there were thirty million fossil fragments in that area, at a conservitive estimate, we had discovere the tomb of 10,000 dinosaurs. There was a flood. This was no ordinary spring flood from one of the streams in the area but acatastrophic inundation... that our best explanation. it seems to make the best sense, and on the basis of it we believe this was a living, breathing group of dinosaurs destroyed in one catastrophic moment.

All the other flood stories spun off the original.

massive sedimentation---

Dolostone beds---

Chert beds---

Congomerlate---

massive volcanism---

Evidence of significent of past global changes---

Grand canyon monument to global flood--- flat beds instead of v shaped out of order column which this isnt the only place that occurs.

sedimentary rock clearly visisble at the top of Mt everest. And it goes on and on!!!!!!


272 posted on 03/05/2007 4:16:38 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
Don't give up your day job. Somehow I don't think science is the best profession for you.

For the lurkers, here are a few links which may be of interest:

Problems with a Global Flood, Second Edition, by Mark Isaak

Was Noah's Flood Local or Global?

Why a Global Flood is impossible

275 posted on 03/05/2007 6:32:48 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Wakeup Sleeper
No global flood you say?

Fossils--- usually have to be covered quickly by catastrophic means. rapid petrafication of wood.

Do you know how thick layers of lignite are? You need several thousand years to reach this thickness.

For a hypothesis like a global flood it is enough to have just one example for inconsistence. We have several examples from dendrochronology that no global flood could have covered the whole world.


"...if you look at all known imoral places today they are sitting right in great catastrophical potential areas. Makes you wonder! Pompei, Jericho, Sodom , Gomorah, San Fransisco, New orleans, Indonesia, Roman Empire etc...etc.."

Pompei was a part of the Roman Empire.
But what catastrophe happened to the Roman Empire? It was just dissolution.
The conquer of Jericho and the holly land is from my point of view genocide.
Sodom & Gomorrah is a myth (-> global flood).
Indonesia is not immoral at all. Just being a Muslim makes you immoral?
San Fransisco and New Orleans are built on dangerous ground in a blessed nation?

"[America] ...have also been the most blessed nation on the face of the earth ..."

Venezuela is also America. I would prefer being unemployed in Europa than a working poor in the US.
Saudi Arabia is blessed with oil, Russia with gas and Iran with oil and gas.
284 posted on 03/07/2007 3:35:39 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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