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To: Wakeup Sleeper
No global flood you say?

Fossils--- usually have to be covered quickly by catastrophic means. rapid petrafication of wood.

Do you know how thick layers of lignite are? You need several thousand years to reach this thickness.

For a hypothesis like a global flood it is enough to have just one example for inconsistence. We have several examples from dendrochronology that no global flood could have covered the whole world.


"...if you look at all known imoral places today they are sitting right in great catastrophical potential areas. Makes you wonder! Pompei, Jericho, Sodom , Gomorah, San Fransisco, New orleans, Indonesia, Roman Empire etc...etc.."

Pompei was a part of the Roman Empire.
But what catastrophe happened to the Roman Empire? It was just dissolution.
The conquer of Jericho and the holly land is from my point of view genocide.
Sodom & Gomorrah is a myth (-> global flood).
Indonesia is not immoral at all. Just being a Muslim makes you immoral?
San Fransisco and New Orleans are built on dangerous ground in a blessed nation?

"[America] ...have also been the most blessed nation on the face of the earth ..."

Venezuela is also America. I would prefer being unemployed in Europa than a working poor in the US.
Saudi Arabia is blessed with oil, Russia with gas and Iran with oil and gas.
284 posted on 03/07/2007 3:35:39 AM PST by MHalblaub ("Easy my friends, when it comes to the point it is only a drawing made by a non believing Dane...")
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To: MHalblaub

Intelligent design is no ally to Christians. It only gives you some type of First principle or Prime Mover, as in Aristotle or the 17th century Rationalists. It doesn't lead to the Revealed God or the Incarnate Christ. However, I have a couple of scientist friends (I mean real scientists), one of whom is a physicist, and both say that the "argument from design" is the most compelling argument for God's existence. They remain sceptical, however.


285 posted on 03/07/2007 3:45:54 AM PST by gobus1
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To: MHalblaub

Dissolution in the Roman empire, that came from there ever increasing immorality.

How come the walls of Jericho fell inward where this is not understood since when walss are destroyed thaey fall outward.

Sodom and Gomorah is not a myth they have found the actual citys my friend and they are covered with a substance that the locals call Brimstone, this is absolute archeaological fact, like I said you need to catch up!

Indonesia is the porn capital of the world, when the Sunami hit gangs waited and came back to kid nap orphaned children.

A blessed nation but immoral citys.

And for your last ridiculous comments I wont even bother! The United States is what I meant, if you have to be that arrogant. Europes unemployed? have it easy because of those who work! and get ripped off by over burdening taxation,(which also is a job loser, over taxation so slobs can live high on the hog)) dont you remember the stories of old, of the kings and the peasants, it seems they want that all over again, but I got news for you communism doesnt work!

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you cant fool all of the people all of the time!




289 posted on 03/07/2007 7:33:18 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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To: MHalblaub

Coal formations you say, layered by by water from a Flood perhaps? Its nice that you mentioned coal formation(or should I say rapid coal formation which is exactly what the evidencepoints to) which is more evidence to a global flood in which massive amounts of sediment and water and layers of vegitation from enormous volcanic activity that would have occured in a global flood, thanks for the reminder.

Labratory research in the past few decades has shown may be formed quickly. In May of 1972 George R. Hill, Dean of the College of Mines and Minerals Industries wrote an article published in the Journal of Chemical Technology, now known as Chemtech. He commented , A rather startling and serendiputous discovery resulted... these observations suggest that in there formation, high rank coals,...were probably subjected to high temperature at some stage in their history. A possible mechanism for formation of these high rank coals could have been a short time, rapid heating event. Hill made coal industinguishable from natural coal in SIX HOURS.

Many more!!!!!

British researchers Noel McAuliffe of Manchester University.

Natural coal may also be formed quickly,--- Argonne National Labratories

Yet Many more!!!!!

For these things covetesnous, adultery, Fornication the wrath of God is coming on those the sons of disobedience.

Forgiveness can be for anyone In Christ! Amen! Sorry about name calling MHalblaub, peace friend!


293 posted on 03/07/2007 8:14:44 PM PST by Wakeup Sleeper
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