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[Giuliani's] Allies could cause alarm
AM New York ^ | 22 February 2007 | Tom Brune

Posted on 02/22/2007 2:59:27 PM PST by Spiff

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To: My2Cents

Giuliani's Record EXPOSED!

National Defense: Many people contend that Giuliani is the best Republican candidate for national security? But they fail to explain his national security superiority over the other candidates in light of the FACT that he twisted President Bush's arm to appoint Rudy's mobbed up, high school dropout, corrupt political crony and business partner, Bernard Kerik, to be the head of the Department of Homeland Security after the 9/11 attacks and during a time of war. How could someone who demonstrated that he is more interested in political cronyism in the selection of such a critical, national security position - after the 9/11 attacks and during a time of war - be better on national security than the other GOP candidates.

His preparations for possible terrorist attackss are also questionable. Despite getting the reports about comms not working between FDNY and NYPD during the 1993 WTC attack, Giuliani didn't fix the situation and 8 years later found the city unprepared for the 2001 WTC attack. Tell me how that helps his image on national security and war fighting issues. I mean, if a glaring security and safety deficiency, exposed by an attack on us, is found in our national security or our armed forces, will it take President/Commander in Chief Giuliani 8 years to fix it if he even attempts to fix it?

Giuliani agreed to give the New York Stock Exchange a $1.1 Billion dollar handout (which, by the way, is equal to the entire operating budget of the New York Fire Department) but he could never find it in the budget to upgrade the FDNY and NYPD communications systems even after the original WTC attacks demonstrated their deficiencies. How does this demonstrate the way he will act as Commander in Chief when determining priorities for the military and homeland security?

In truth, the whole national security thing with Giuliani is purely myth. Yes, he's a war hawk. Just like almost every other Republican Presidential candidate right now except for Paul and Hagel. But his actual record on issues that directly pertain to how he would operate as President is not going to help him.

Law and Order: His law and order record does not go well beyond clearing the streets of squeegee men, bums, and hookers. Some tout his efforts to go after organized crime, but he lost all credibility on that when it was exposed that he'd appointed a corrupt high school dropout with mob ties to be the Commissioner of the New York Police Department. Bernie Kerik, again. Giuliani went on to strong arm President Bush into appointing Kerik to one of the top law enforcement positions in the country - the head of the Department of Homeland Security. Kerik had to withdraw his name when he was later indicted for his crimes for which he received an even later conviction. He avoided jail, but narrowly.

- Giuliani also continued the 'sanctuary city' policies of enacted by his Democrat predecessors. He welcomed hundreds of thousands of criminals - illegal aliens - into his city and refused to work with the INS on enforcing immigration laws. In fact, so annoyed with the pressure that INS was putting on him to cooperate and uphold law and order, he actually sued the Federal Government to try to be able to just ignore the law and continue coddling hundreds of thousands of criminal aliens. His lawsuit failed, and failed again on appeal, but he flouted the law anyway and continued to coddle the hundreds of thousands of criminals in his city.

Appointments/Nominations to his administration:First, I'll start with two words. Bernie Kerik. We know what a great job Giuliani did at getting Bush to appoint his mobbed up, high school dropout, corrupt business partner Bernie Kerik to head the Department of Homeland Security. Giuliani earlier appointed Kerik to head the New York Police Department And we know now how that all worked out. Kerik narrowly avoided jail, but he was convicted anyway.

Giuliani, in a quid pro quo for the New York Liberal Party's endorsement and support, appointed Liberal Party Chairwoman Fran Reiter as Deputy Mayor. He also appointed Russell Harding, the son of Giuliani's close friend Raymond Harding who also chaired the Liberal Party and was one of Giuliani's closest campaign advisers, to be the City Housing Director. Russell Harding had to leave office upon being arrested by federal law enforcement and charged with conspiracy, fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, receiving child pornography, and possesing child pornography. He was using his official credit card to pay for personal items including a car, 'Sopranos' and 'Sex in the City' DVDs, and a helicopter tour of the Grand Canyon. He later pleaded guilty to the charges and was sentenced to 5 years in prison and forced to repay $367,000 he embezzled from the New York City.

He also appointed hundreds of judges in New York during his term. You can count on one hand how many were "strict constructionists" and/or conservative.

Yes, Rudy Giuliani has a sterling record when it comes to appointing people to positions in his administration. One can only imagine the types of people he'd appoint to his administration and to the Supreme Court if given the opportunity. It would be wise not to give him that opportunity given his record.

Fiscal Conservatism: Rudy is barely a fiscal conservative. He's a big government Republican. Rudy got taxes cut $2.0 billion. But that only offset the $1.8 billion tax increase Mayor Dinkins signed off on a few years earlier. A modest $200 million tax cut. Rudy also froze the 12.5% surcharge on high income earners, but he didn't eliminate the surcharge. Nor did Rudy abolish the city income tax structure. Rudy also left NYCity saddled with a projected, pre-9/11 deficit of $2.0 billion and a $42 billion debt. Second largest behind the federal government. Rudy also added 15,000 new teachers to the city employment rolls, helping to increase the membership of two of America's largest liberal oraganizations. The National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers. Rudy also took all those savings from the cuts in welfare costs and applied them to other city welfare progarms. Really no savings whatsoever. The scope of city services wasn't reduced. In addition, Rudy almost doubled the costs of contractual outsourcing from $3.0 billion to $5.8 billion. These are just a few of the things that demonstrate that the myth of Rudy's fiscal conservatism is just that - a myth.

21 posted on 02/22/2007 3:26:28 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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Giuliani fears ex-wife will hit presidential bid
London Times | 1/7/07

FR Posted on 01/07/2007 11:46:24 AM PST by wagglebee


There is one woman who could cause Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor, more problems than Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House: she is Donna Hanover, his second wife...... Hanover, an actress and broadcaster, was enraged by Giuliani’s flagrant infidelity towards the end of their 18-year marriage and the divorce case was vicious. Giuliani’s advisers fear that she could be a loose cannon in the 2008 campaign.

Giuliani was acclaimed as the “mayor of America” for his heroic role during the attacks on September 11, 2001 and is revered for his leadership. At the time he was living in the spare room of an apartment belonging to gay friends after Hanover forced him out of Gracie Mansion, the official residence.*

New Yorkers relished the details of Giuliani’s larger-than-life personal story. But conservative “values voters” could be different, as Giuliani’s own aides noted in a 140-page memo leaked last week by supporters of a rival candidate. **

The campaign dossier suggested that Hanover could be one of several potentially “insurmountable” vulnerabilities that could cause him to drop out of the race. It was an embarrassing start to a campaign that is not yet officially under way.

But the party base may be turned off by his support for abortion, immigration, gun control and gay rights (although not gay marriage).

It is their votes that he needs to secure the nomination. “It would be one thing if Giuliani could say, ‘I’m a strong social conservative in my private life’, but he can’t even say that,” said Ramesh Ponnuru, a conservative commentator and author of The Party of Death, an attack on social liberalism. “It’s not just the fact of his multiple marriages, it is the way the Hanover marriage melted down. It was operatic.”

When Giuliani met Hanover on a blind date in the early 1980s, his first marriage to Regina, his second cousin, was already over. Hanover, who went on to appear in the television series Ally McBeal, was a glamorous soulmate who seemed to enjoy the spotlight as much as he did.

They had two children, Andrew, 21, and Caroline, 17, but in 1996 Hanover stopped calling herself by his last name and a year later Vanity Fair magazine said that he was having an “intimate relationship” with a senior member of his staff.

In 2000, without telling Hanover first, Giuliani
announced at a press conference that he was separating from her. She retaliated by accusing him of being unfaithful with the employee, but he was already with
Nathan.

Maggie Gallagher, a family values campaigner, was outraged by Giuliani’s “scummy” performance, accusing him of making Bill Clinton “look good as a husband and father”.

New Yorkers learnt during the divorce case that their cancer-afflicted mayor was temporarily impotent and Hanover demanded a huge settlement, including £760 a month to care for Goalie, the family’s golden retriever.

In the end Giuliani, who was beginning to earn big consultancy fees after September 11, agreed to a settlement of $6.8m to avoid the full horror of a court case.

Even if she stays mum, there is enough in the public domain to rattle conservatives. Yet however vicious the personal attacks on Giuliani, they are unlikely to dent his reputation for competence. He did, after all, handle the September 11 attacks while bunking with gay friends in the midst of an affair and a divorce battle.




COMMENTS Julie-Annie will do anything to rid himself of
women after he's done with them. Rudy's marriage to his cousin gets even wierder than the article suggests---he tried to have the marriage annuled, claiming "he did not know" she was his second cousin.

* The article says Hanover forced Rudy out of Gracie Mansion. But that was AFTER he tried to put her and his biological children out on the streets........so he could move his lover into the Mayor's mansion (under the pretext that his mistress was his nurse. However, he had not told Hanover he had cancer.)

Hanover had to go to court to have the Mayoral mansion declared their domestic domicile to prevent the mistress moving in.

** The article mentions Giuliani "lost" his campaign's critical vulnerabilities playbook. But the story Julie-Annie spun is quite suspicious. Julie publicly blamed the "opposition" (Hillary's old VRWC trick). Julie-Annie wanted us to believe that an airport employee knew precisely in which bag, and in which binder the critical documents were, sneaked them out of the bag, copied them, then stealthily returned them to the bag without anyone knowing it.

Giuliani's campaign organization obviously has a leaker, and Julie-Annie did not deal with it? He placed blame on "someone" at the airport. If he was so sure it
was an airport employee, did he demand an investigation? Did he file charges?

He did not because he knew the story was bogus. .......and don't forget that Julie-Annie is the owner and operator of a multi-million dollar "security" company (formerly known as Giuliani-Kerik LLC).


"Security expert" Rudy co-opted GWB into naming his mobbed-up buddy, Bernie Kerik, as Home/Land/Sec chief (Kerik is Rudy's former driver and bodyguard). Kerik was ushered out the WH door when dirt spilled about his hiring an illgal nanny.

Married Kerik was also having trysts in an apartment set-aside for 9/11 workers. Kerik later pleaded guilty to misdemeanors for accepting gifts from a company that was trying to do business with New York while he was corrections commissioner.

Giuliani and Kerik were partners in a SECURITY company, and Julie-Annie STILL didn't vett Kerik (leaving GWB with egg on his face).


22 posted on 02/22/2007 3:29:08 PM PST by Liz (Hunter: For some candidates, a conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it is my hope.)
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To: Spiff
Rudy also left NYCity saddled with a projected, pre-9/11 deficit of $2.0 billion and a $42 billion debt. Second largest behind the federal government.

But,but New York City's population/economy is larger than most states! /S

23 posted on 02/22/2007 3:33:01 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Spiff; TommyDale

Rudy ain't lookin good atall!


24 posted on 02/22/2007 3:34:12 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Misery loves miserable company.......ask any liberal. Hunter in 08!)
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To: Liz
Giuliani and Kerik were partners in a SECURITY company, and Julie-Annie STILL didn't vett Kerik (leaving GWB with egg on his face).

Worse than that...

Giuliani's political cronyism in getting his corrupt, unqualified business partner appointed to head the Department of Homeland Security DURING A TIME OF WAR could have resulted in disaster for the country. While the country is under the threat of terrorist attack, Giuliani was playing games getting a corrupt high school dropout with mob ties appointed to one of the most sensitive national security positions that exists. Thank God that Kerik was found out and dropped before he could do any real damange. No thanks to Giuliani. And it is amazing that Giuliani has skated - so far - and got away with this debacle.

25 posted on 02/22/2007 3:40:45 PM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff

Rudy McRomney is being PimPed by the MsM and MsP for a reason...


26 posted on 02/22/2007 3:48:26 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: beansox
"rudy will win."

You live in Fantasy Land--girl!
27 posted on 02/22/2007 4:00:41 PM PST by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: My2Cents
"...how effective do you think it's been?"

Obviously, it's been effective enough to bother you!

28 posted on 02/22/2007 4:17:40 PM PST by TommyDale (What will Rudy do in the War on Terror? Implement gun control on insurgents and Al Qaeda?)
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To: hosepipe

So that they can split the base.


29 posted on 02/22/2007 4:21:33 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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One unproven allegation about something that supposedly happened more than 30 years ago? I don't blame Rudy for not throwing a friend under the bus for this. Sadly, when the possibility of easy money's involved, false accusations are inevitable. And child abuse is generally a serial crime. ONE allegation? Rudy probably knows this guy well enough to assume the charge is a fabrication.


30 posted on 02/22/2007 4:37:17 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Spiff

BTTT


31 posted on 02/22/2007 4:39:27 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Good night Chesty, wherever you are!)
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To: hosepipe

Yup.


32 posted on 02/22/2007 4:43:24 PM PST by SIDENET (Voting for a liberal doesn't advance Conservatism.)
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To: Spiff
You're firing on ALL cylinders today!

BIG anti-Rudy BTTT

33 posted on 02/22/2007 5:09:45 PM PST by Reagan Man (FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!)
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To: Kevmo
[ So that they can split the base. ]

Bush already did that (split the base) with border inaction and hopefully NOT allies with the Mexican Drug cartels(government).. Could be, but I hope not.. that would be treason and sedition.. Globalists are capable of anything..

34 posted on 02/22/2007 5:20:58 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: Spiff
Great find.

Looks like Rudy is going for the NAMBLA endorsement. As well as the endorsements from NARAL, the global hotting people, the Log Cabin Republicans, the...

Wow, that's one scary list even for a Dim.
35 posted on 02/22/2007 6:00:56 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: NapkinUser

Love that bumper sticker.


36 posted on 02/22/2007 6:03:28 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Spiff

Rudy and Alan were in high school together.


37 posted on 02/22/2007 6:26:45 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: TommyDale

It isn't even all open yet.


38 posted on 02/22/2007 6:29:02 PM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Spiff

more smear attacks. do you realize how many of these charges of priest abuse, were phony, just to win civil judgements from the church.


39 posted on 02/22/2007 6:31:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: All; Spiff

As an aside, Mark Levin brought out the fact that Howard Dean, and Muskie were high up in the polls early, but look what happened.


40 posted on 02/22/2007 7:00:27 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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