Posted on 02/22/2007 8:58:34 AM PST by Reagan Man
Giuliani has a tough road ahead in South Carolina, which is to host the first Southern primaries in 2008. His moderate positions on gun control and support for abortion rights do not sit well with the state's Christian conservatives, who accounted for a third of the 2000 GOP primary vote. Those voters swung heavily to President Bush that year, giving him a 2-1 ratio margin over Arizona Sen. John McCain, who was viewed as soft on abortion.
On Wednesday, Giuliani reiterated his own position.
"I'd advise my daughter or anyone else not to have an abortion," Giuliani said. "I'd like to see it ended, but ultimately I believe that a woman has the right to choose.
"I believe that you've got to run based on who you are, what you really are and then people actually get a right to disagree with you," he said. "And I find if you do it that way, even people who disagree with you sometimes respect you."
".... the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. "
Rudy talks out both sides of his mouth on most issues, including abortion rights and right to keep and bear arms. He's pretty good at it too. He's already hoodwinked many people into supporting him, before they've had an opportunity to fully understand his liberal record.
Nowhere in the plain words of the Constitution does it say anything about a woman having a right to kill her unborn child. NOWHERE!
Some see abortion as an issue for the states. I think its a federal issue, directly spoken about in the Declaration of Independence.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Life, life, life..... Its' all about life!
Were I posting Mr. Giuliani's comment I'd highlight it as follows...
GIULIANI: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it.
Prove it,..btw you know fully well I mean Planned Parenthood! -Take Care.
Yeah, what's the problem? There is no inconsistency between that and what he says in this article. It's not as if there is an obligation to repeat every single word of what you have said, you just should not contradict yourself.
I'm on board.
"Are you saying that a majority of Americans has no respect for human life?"
Apparently they don't, or they have been misled about what a so-called "fetus" is. The majority of Americans are very poorly informed about many issues. After all, about half the electorate voted for Kerry and Gore; you can't get much dumber and more immoral than that.
Real statesmen don't follow polls; they lead the people.
I guess you were Picard to their Borg, EEE.
If the GOP nominates him for Pres they are dead in the water.
An american doesn't have the uninfringed right to keep and bear arms [paraphrase].
One of these IS in the constitution, and one isn't. Rudy is wrong on both counts.
The right to own slaves is supported by a substantial majority of voters because it is right and it is fair, even though people in the north think its sad.
And we all know hown that turned out. Right?
If you think abortion on demand is a right found in the Constitution, then you agree with the 1973 decision of the liberal SCOTUS. Opposing Roe v Wade is a matter of personal conscience and natural law.
J. Byron White and J. William Rehnquist opposed the Roe v Wade decision.
J.White wrote:
I find nothing in the language or history of the Constitution to support the Court's judgment. The Court simply fashions and announces a new constitutional right for pregnant mothers and, with scarcely any reason or authority for its action, invests that right with sufficient substance to override most existing state abortion statutes. The upshot is that the people and the legislatures of the 50 States are constitutionally disentitled to weigh the relative importance of the continued existence and development of the fetus, on the one hand, against a spectrum of possible impacts on the mother, on the other hand. As an exercise of raw judicial power, the Court perhaps has authority to do what it does today; but, in my view, its judgment is an improvident and extravagant exercise of the power of judicial review that the Constitution extends to this Court.
NewsMax using the MSM definition of 'moderate'?!
"I'd like to see it ended, but ultimately I believe that a woman has the right to choose."
Would the Great Crime Fighter make the same statement about murder, or even about graffiti and squeegee men?
Besides, Rudy's statement is effectively the same as Bubba Clinton's "I want abortion to be safe, legal, and rare." It's a piece of liberal sophistry.
No honest debater uses the expression "a woman's right to choose."
Depends on the justness of the war and the rules of engagement agreed to by both sides. Perhaps I should have said, no one has a right to take innocent life. You cannot compare abortion to that. The child did nothing wrong and is not a threat to anyone. The exception is if the life (not mental health) of the mother is at risk.
"When are you guys ever going to learn that people don't like to be told what they can and can not do?"
How absurd. All civilized societies have laws telling people what they can't do. We don't let people "choose" murder, for example.
If you are for the principle that people should not be told what to do, then you are in favor of legalizing everything. You must, logically, support legalizing slavery, bank robbery, fraud, etc., because in all these cases, making these activities illegal is "telling people what to do." It also infringes on their right to choose.
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