To find I'm king of the hill, top of the heap
Posted on 02/22/2007 7:51:14 AM PST by areafiftyone
Rudy Giuliani has picked up the edorsement of Rep. Charlie Dent (PA). According to Giuliani's team, Dent plans "to enlist other" PA GOPers to follow suit.
Dent, explaining his support: "Giuliani successfully led New York City and became known as 'America’s Mayor' because of his dynamic approach to tackling the challenges facing America’s largest city... It takes a determined fiscal leader to make the kind of transformation he achieved as Mayor of New York – and his record speaks for itself." (Hotline reporting)
newt gingrich for one.
Hannity lives here, that's why. anyone who lived in NYC during this period, knows the score.
"It's one of the greatest achievements of government capability in the 20th century"
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2882586&page=1
Are you saying that the New York Stock Exchange was planning to leave the city? Are you saying that the high level brokers and traders were going to have offices in New Jersey and not on Wall Street? Those people (and they were the ones who really added to NYC's tax base) were never leaving NYC. What moved out of NYC were support services because with advances in communications, it no longer made financial sense for them to be there.
Let me ask you this, which companies RETURNED to NYC because of Rudy?
All I'm saying is that the entire economy prospered during the 90s and if Rudy tries to take credit for it, the media will be all over the place giving the Clintons the credit.
Yes, that's one he said. The words "one of" and "government capability" give it a bit of a different meaning than what was posted, don't they?
And it was Newt she was misquoting... a guy she was gleefully ridiculing mere days ago.
We're probably the only two people on this thread who even heard of this clown before yesterday.
It's ironic how these WOT warriors are high-fiving each other over the endorsement of guy who couldn't come out and bad-mouth the President and the surge fast enough.
But he's never waivered in support for Planned Parenthood. That's what's really important.
You start off well, puncturing the statement that New York City's turnaround under Mayor Guiliani was the greatest accomplishment of the 20th century, but then make a serious of untenable arguments.
New York City's turnaround under Mayor Guiliani was indeed impressive. It had lost 1 million people under the prior mayor, and regained that number under Guiliani. Incomes and property values rebounded strongly, and crime fell by so much that it impacted the national figures.
You say the rebound of New York City wasn't due to Mayor Guiliani, but was due to President Clinton. If this were true, why didn't all or even most American cities rebound? Why is it that Detroit continued its slide into the abyss, and Philadelphia start to totter on the brink of demise?
Considering President Clinton, for two years he worked with a Democratic Congress and for six years he worked with a Republican Congress. A lot of credit for what we did in terms of maintaining and deepening the economic expansion that began in 1992 (cutting taxes, welfare reform and developing a budget surplus), has to go to both President Clinton and the Republican Congress.
On the other hand, President Clinton (and that Republican Congress) down-sized the military, and the Army in particular, leaving us unable to amass the kind of occupation force that could have overwhelmed any insurgency in Iraq. To be sure, the army was lighter, more moble, and more lethal, as was demonstrated in our amazing victories in both Afghanistan and Iraq. But, in terms of putting boots on the ground, our contingency plan for Iraq envisioned the blue helmets of the U.N. taking over, and that proved to be unrealistic.
The down-sizing of the army and the continuing treatment of the war on terror as a police matter instead of a military matter, left us exposed to the 9-11 attack and limited in our options in prosecuting the war in Iraq. These are, equally with the economy, part of the Clinton legacy.
Guiliani, among other candidates, would be fresh, free of any defensiveness with regard to the mistakes we made either under President Clinton or President Bush, able to learn from our experiences thusfar in the war on terror, and to move forward.
New York City's population fell by 800,000 in the 1970s.
From 1980 to 1990, New York City's population climbed rose from 7.1 to 7.4 million.
From 1990 to 2000, New York City's population climbed from 7.4 million to 8 million.
Giuliani did prevent it from sliding back into the abyss after Dinkins, but the major turnaround after the sharpest population decline is attributed to Ed Koch.
I NEVER said this and I don't believe it. I am merely pointing out the 90s were a very strong period for the economy nationwide. Hillary will TRY to take credit for this and the media will support her claim.
Well, some of the follow-up "proof" of Rudy's conservative credentials came from "The Village Voice" (which it wouldn't surprise me if Rudy read this rag on a regular basis)!
If we are going to be precise ...
Annual figures on population indicate that New York City's population reached bottom in 1991.
Matching this with mayors, the decline occured during Mayor Koch's 12-year tenure (1978-1989) as mayor, and was "discovered" during Mayor Dinkins' 4-year tenure (1990-1993). New Yorker, therefore, associate the decline with Mayor Dinkins. This may not be entirely fair. Plus, New Yorkers love Mayor Koch, and conveniently attribute the atrophy of their formerly and now once again great city to his 1-term successor.
I like that.
The problem is that people who hate Rudy think they can skip over all that he has accomplished. But we won't let them. ;-)
Was there an error in 1990 census? Because those numbers show an overall population growth of 300,000 over 10 years and Koch was the mayor for that entire period.
And the poeple who love Rudy think they can skip over all his faults. But we won't let them.
Well thank God there are perfect alternatives out there.
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