Posted on 02/22/2007 7:27:03 AM PST by meg88
hursday, Feb. 22, 2007 8:13 a.m. EST
Rudy Giuliani: 'A Woman Has the Right to Choose' Abortion
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Republican presidential hopeful Rudy Giuliani met with firefighters and police officers in this early voting state Wednesday, using the forum to reference the Sept. 11 terror attacks, which earned him national attention.
"The first people that arrive on the scene of the bombing or the anthrax attack ... it's going to be one of your brothers or your sisters or you that gets to do it," the former New York mayor told a crowd of about 200 emergency workers. "Your ability to do it well will once again determine if we save lives - save America."
Giuliani compared firefighters and police to uniformed military personnel and said the federal Department of Homeland Security needs to ensure first responders "have the training and protection you need to defend your country."
Giuliani has a tough road ahead in South Carolina, which is to host the first Southern primaries in 2008. His moderate positions on gun control and support for abortion rights do not sit well with the state's Christian conservatives, who accounted for a third of the 2000 GOP primary vote. Those voters swung heavily to President Bush that year, giving him a 2-1 ratio margin over Arizona Sen. John McCain, who was viewed as soft on abortion.
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On Wednesday, Giuliani reiterated his own position.
"I'd advise my daughter or anyone else not to have an abortion," Giuliani said. "I'd like to see it ended, but ultimately I believe that a woman has the right to choose.
"I believe that you've got to run based on who you are, what you really are and then people actually get a right to disagree with you," he said. "And I find if you do it that way, even people who disagree with you sometimes respect you."
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"We're a tremendous amount of time away from an election," he said. "We haven't even gotten to a primary yet. The best thing we can do now is organize."
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I am not one to advocate murder except in self defense.
Birth control has nothing to do with the stopping the life of a living being.
So you support sexually active individuals using birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancies?
I don't understand this, nor Hillary's! "Safe, but rare" position. Either abortion is acceptable, ie. morally defensible, or it's not.
I think I have more respect for militant abortion defenders than for these wishy-washy, want-it-both-ways opportunists.
Yep, and men have the right to choose as well. A man can choose to kick a woman in the stomach until she miscarries.
But having the ability to choose to do something doesn't mean it should be legal to do it.
He thinks we've got nowhere else to go. He's wrong.
Well then, I stand corrected.
That was the FIRST time - she just got re-elected, and he didn't run against her then either.
Study after study has shown that women who have aborted are much more likely to have mental and emotional problems, and those problems are directly caused by having aborted a child.
Better emotionally and mentally for the woman to bear the child and give it up for adoption than to live with knowing she murdered an innocent child for the sins of someone else.
The preamble to the constitution says that one of the rights with which we were endowed by our Creator is life. To outlaw abortion would seem to be behaving as a strict constructionist.
I think it's important to understand that ANYONE serving in a public office that is given the charge to defend the Constitution and the Laws of the United States can without bias say that a woman does have a right to choose. That is the law. I believe Rudy, like most attorneys, thinks "through" the law. John Quincy Adams thought so much of the law that he swore in using a law book and not the Bible.
You are sorry to tell me that laws can improperly interfere with rights,
therefore,
I should vote for Rudy Giuliani who wants to continue doing that.
I suspect you've lost track of your own argument.
Or you are telling me that Rudy is your guy because he improperly imposes upon the right to life.
what's your position on contraception?
I don't agree with that. Before Roe v Wade there were plenty of states that outlawed abortion, and we didn't need a "federal law" to state that. IOW, the States, before Roe v Wade, didn't need "affirmation" from the Feds. The same would be true if Roe v Wade were overturned, or at least severely curtailed. Like I said, there would probably still be some states where abortion would still be legal, but at least it wouldn't be the entire country, which is a step in the right direction. Again, it would at least make it easier to combat abortion on the state level.
The states will just pass a constittional amendment making abortion legal again. Are you arguing that the Court should ignore the amdnemtn?
I'm not sure what amendment you are refering to here, that the Court should "ignore". However, as far as states passing constitutional amendments permitting abortion, I seriously doubt that would happen in too many states, but where it would, since those number of states would be even less than states that would simply permit abortion by law, it would then be even easier to confine abortion to even fewer states.
Think of it this way, as this is what I'm envisioning: Roe v Wade is overturned, the issue is thrown back to the states. A good 50% of states right now would immediately enact laws prohibiting or severely curtailing abortion (this is a fact that one must know; it's not factual to presume that if the issue goes back to the states, the MAJORITY of states would continue to permit abortion, that is simply not true, the reverse is true).
Of the remaining states that would still permit abortion, pro life groups could then redouble and focus their efforts there, putting increasing pressure on the baby killers, much more than they can now that all states permit it. It's simple redistribution of resources: The same resources at the disposal of the lobbyists, focused to a smaller area will obviously equate to a greater amount of force. One could arge the pro-choice crowd would be able to do the same, but in this case, they are on the defensive, not only trying to keep ground they have (the states that permit abortion), but also trying to reverse efforts in states they've lost by the Roe v Wade reversal. IOW, the momentum is clearly on the side of pro-life.
Then, let's say a fraction of the states that permit abortion take the EXTRA step of also putting that in their Constitution. (an exceedingly difficult task, no matter how "universal" the cause). This means that only a fraction of the 50 states, maybe 2 or possibly 3, would have actual State Amendments that would permit abortion. This is a clear victory for pro-life, even if those states never overturn their amendments, because we've gone from 50 states to 2 or 3 that permit the killing of the unborn.
I'd take such a scenario. I'd be willing to live with that in the short term. I'm pragmatic, I realize that it's probably impossible to stamp out all legalized abortion, at least in my lifetime, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't support steps to eliminate it in the future. And it doesn't mean that anyone else who's pro-life shouldn't do the same.
Not all victories are won overnight.
Using birth control is not abortion.
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