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American Rudy: Hot Dog Wants to Be Corn Dog
NY Observer ^ | February 21, 2007 | Jason Horowitz

Posted on 02/21/2007 2:44:52 PM PST by don-o

Rudy Giuliani now comes in a new package. Social conservatives still aren’t buying it.

“It’s a sleight of hand,” said Bob Barr, a former Georgia Congressman and champion of small government. “On issues that I consider extremely important to conservatives, such as respect for the Second Amendment, he is nowhere near even remotely in the ballpark of a conservative philosophy.”

The famously resolute, plain-spoken and uncompromising former Mayor has unveiled new shades of nuance to go along with his historically liberal positions on abortion, gun control and gay marriage, which pose the major obstacles to his pursuit of the Republican nomination for President in 2008.

(Excerpt) Read more at observer.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
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To: Vicomte13; SWAMPSNIPER
http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm

That is the link for the GOA's position on McCain.

Rest assured their take on Rudy will be far less kind. ( if you would call it that)
81 posted on 02/21/2007 4:21:17 PM PST by Beagle8U (Jimmy Carter changed me into a Republican.......R. W. Reagan made me DAMN proud of it!)
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To: NathanR
I don't know about conservatives, but a patriot would vote for Rudy

LOL.

82 posted on 02/21/2007 4:22:37 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Reagan Man

What the USSC needs are conservative activist judges, who will disregard poorly reasoned, and "penumbra and emanation" precedents in dismantling the edifice of intellectually dishonest crap erected by "Earl the Pearl" Warren, William "Zero" Douglas, et all, and worshipped by Ruth "Vader" Ginsburg", "Empty" Souter, and "I Scream" Breyer.


83 posted on 02/21/2007 4:23:47 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

Yep. And, based on the Preamble and the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, declare abortion illegal in all the states and territories.


84 posted on 02/21/2007 4:26:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: Buck W.

They might if the alternative is a GOP run by, and representing the views of, Rockerfeller Republicans, i.e Rudy, Christie Todd Whitman, Tom Keane, etc.


85 posted on 02/21/2007 4:27:09 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: EternalVigilance
Vote for leftwing Rudy

Here's what the real left wingers think about Rudy:

ACLU petition to Rudy.

Left-wingers don't oppose publicly-funded antireligious propaganda.

86 posted on 02/21/2007 4:30:21 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: don-o

I'll never vote for a gun grabbing NY'er.

NEVER!


87 posted on 02/21/2007 4:30:30 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Jim Noble

Middle-of-the-roaders always end up being hated by everyone on both sides. It's unavoidable.


88 posted on 02/21/2007 4:31:42 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: Vicomte13

If it GENUINELY endangers the life of the mother, I do not object to abortion. I was a prosecutor for 26 years, and the law has always allowed the theory of "self defense" to justify certain homicides, i.e killing someone to save the life of the actor or a third party. Such an abortion is consonant with that well established legal principle.


89 posted on 02/21/2007 4:32:20 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

"I can work for a candidate, or I can ignore them, but when it comes down to anyone who threatens my "inalienable rights", I will work my ass off to defeat them."



MEGADITTOS BUMP!


90 posted on 02/21/2007 4:32:39 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: concerned about politics
He'd easily get the left wing vote.

Well, he certainly was popular with Al Sharpton.

91 posted on 02/21/2007 4:37:10 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: concerned about politics
Rudy should try for a job in the homeland security department. He's not Conservative enough to win a presidential election.

And Bill Clinton was?

92 posted on 02/21/2007 4:39:12 PM PST by You Dirty Rats (I Love Free Republic!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Vote for leftwing Rudy

Reverend Al usually likes left wingers, doesn't he?

93 posted on 02/21/2007 4:39:37 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

Socialists always fight amongst themselves. Think Hitler and Stalin.


94 posted on 02/21/2007 4:42:06 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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To: You Dirty Rats
Rudy should try for a job in the homeland security department. He's not Conservative enough to win a presidential election.

And Bill Clinton was?

He lied and deceived the many. Remember his "Third way" propaganda? No one knew it was Marxism until it was too late. (It's sort of like Rudy trying to run as a Conservative.)

95 posted on 02/21/2007 4:44:16 PM PST by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: Jim Noble

Sharpton and Rudy hated each other and Rudy REFUSED to meet with Rev Al.

But facts don't matter to you people.


96 posted on 02/21/2007 4:47:28 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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To: Vicomte13; neverdem; sitetest; weegee; wagglebee; EternalVigilance
WORTH REPEATING and amendment:

If the REASON not to allow abortion is because it is the murder of an innocent baby, where is the logic in saying it is ok to murder an innocent baby because of a series of acts for which the innocent was not responsible - to wit: the rape or incest of the mother?

Those exceptions don't hold up to rational scrutiny. And, of course, if abortion is allowed in those cases and made illegal otherwise, then THOSE babies will never be protected at all, because you will never get the momentum to get rid of the remaining evil once you've gotten rid of most of it.

The best way to get rid of abortion is to have judges find a human right to life and due process in the Constitution, and remove the issue from democracy in the OTHER direction of Roe. That's the only way, really, to protect ALL the babies, because people are just not good enough to not weasel out in the hard cases.


AMEN. Life is life and it's a baby, not chattel slave-matter owned by the female parent.

Wrong premises lead to wrong answers and that's what the Liberals Cultural Marxists are counting on. How about swift and sure death penalty for any rape or incest? How about a call to manhood so that males who cut-and-run from the women they abandon are treated with all due societal contempt, not as a carefree selfish self-gratifying hedonist who is in fact a socialist welfarist ally in enlarging the nanny state?

As regards extreme health situations, this is a classic red herring, there are so few such cases that this is statistically almost a moot point--except for those desperate to create a Hegelian Dialectic out of something, anything.... In such cases as do occur, Doctors do their best in such cases to save both--and triage if that is not possible. Of course, I refer here to actual doctors who first do no harm--not to those who make a living killing.

97 posted on 02/21/2007 4:49:20 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: BunnySlippers
But facts don't matter to you people.

Please follow my links before you comment.

I'm more pro-Rudy than you are.

98 posted on 02/21/2007 4:50:42 PM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Jim Noble

Oh :)


99 posted on 02/21/2007 4:51:54 PM PST by BunnySlippers (RUDY FOR PRESIDENT 2008)
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To: Jim Noble

See, y'all are proving my point.


To: BunnySlippers
But facts don't matter to you people.
Please follow my links before you comment.

I'm more pro-Rudy than you are.


98 posted on 02/21/2007 6:50:42 PM CST by Jim Noble


100 posted on 02/21/2007 4:52:54 PM PST by EternalVigilance (The Talented Mr. Romney: It's better to be a fake somebody than a real nobody)
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