This one might get nasty so ping all your Ramos/Campeon friends.
"And for all you goofs out there with your conspiracy theories about Homeland Security and Bush, knock it off...you look like Eric Van Daniken."
In the end, the truth usually presents itself. I think you'll find the majority to believe your efforts to defend your version of the truth in vain, as your agenda is apparent.
Thank you for this post.
Bump for later.
Even if he had only slammed the shotgun into his head, like he tried to do, he deserved to be fired and charged with assault, minimum.
However it deeply desturbs me to read about the tactics used by the Justice Department and the prosecutor. JMO
I'm not sure how much you can trust what's in that transcript.
It's about time cooler heads prevailed. I'm tired of hearing idiot politicians bloviate about impeaching Bush over this (and some Freepers haven't been much better).
I hadn't followed this one closely, so it's very interesting to see a post-mortem like this. Thanks.
As I'm sure you know, you're likely about to catch a mountain of crap.
This post is just Bob J's opinion. What is the Justice Dept. trying to hide, What is the Dept of Homeland Security trying to hide?
Congressman Culberson issued the following statement regarding Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean following yesterday’s House Homeland Security Appropriations Subcommittee hearing with Department of Homeland Security Inspector General Richard Skinner.
"Richard Skinner admitted yesterday under oath that his top deputies gave Members of Congress false information painting Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean as rogue cops who were not in fear for their lives and who were 'out to shoot Mexicans'.
my feelings exactly!!!! when this first came out, it reminded me of a 48 hours mystery on tv. You get half the story, and wonder why the jury ruled the way they did. Once the facts come out, the only conclusion is that these two belong in jail.
It reinforces my initial opinion...a bad shoot and coverup.
Bump for later reading.
This looks like something from moveon.org and it appears a pack of jackals from there have joined the fun by posting in support of the conviction of the two agents.
"The mule takes off, Campeon, mad at being dodged by the mule, getting his uniform dirty and dropping his shotgun in the mud, scrambles up to the top of ditch and climbs to the top of a levee road that is just south of the ditch. He starts emptying his pistol at the fleeing mule. He gets off 11 rounds, changes magazines and shoots again. Amazingly, he misses on every round which I find hard to believe. It is possible Campeon is missing on purpose and is only trying to scare the mule. He's mad, but not stupid. He knows a shooting in this situation would be wholly unjustified"......you have no way of knowing what they were thinking or feeling.
"After a few short responses, the agents switched to their local radios which is not recorded. It is my opinion they did this for several reasons.".....exactly, your opinion.
"When he does get out, he runs over to Campeons side, possibly believing there was an exchange of gunfire."....... 'possibly believing'? Possibly? not very definiitive is it.
"Campeon is in shock. I don't think he ever intended to take the guy down"......Did a doctor or EMS say he was in shock? Do you even know the true definition of the word? You don't 'think' he ever intended to take him down? Was there testimony from Campeon to this effect or is it more of your supposition?
"Campeon stops to pickup his shell casings and then throws them in the river. Standard procedure."....I thought you said Campeon was in shock. This is pretty good thinking for someone so out of it. And, btw, when did destroying evidenvce of a shooting become SOP?
Who was the prosecution's chief witness? Wasn't it a drug smuggler who was offered immunity and other incentives?
Definition of shock from NIH...
Shock is a life-threatening condition that occurs when the body is not getting enough blood flow. This can damage multiple organs. Shock requires IMMEDIATE medical treatment and can get worse very rapidly.
Did campeon get immediate medical assistance for this life threatening condition or are you just talking out your a** to fit your own bias?
I take it that you're being sarcastic about "standard procedure."
Well, I tend to believe them(Ramos and Compean) and not your analysis.
I'm sure you will be vilified by those who have been campaigning for their release.
However, I would like you to answer one question if you would....
I read somewhere that the "smuggler" had been given immunity in order to testify and was then caught with a SECOND shipment while the "trial" was in progress...is that TRUE...???
This is one rotten onion of multiple layers.