Rudolph Giuliani?

American Thinker ^ | February 21, 2007 | Selwyn Duke

[neverdem]

Rudolph Giuliani for president?  Please.  There's more chance I'll simultaneously be made head of NOW and the NAACP and be invited to George Soros' next soiree. 

I know a little something about Giuliani.  Although my politics, faith, appearance, gun case and, well, most everything about me say otherwise, I was raised in New York City.  And one of my last acts before departing the Den of Iniquity for suburbia was to cast a vote for America's Mayor.  Don't hold it against me; he was running against David Dinkins, a man who made Forrest Gump look smart. 

Unlike the piece I wrote about the now listing U.S.S. Mitt Romney, I'm not herein trying to sound the alarm.  Rather, I simply point out that Giuliani is a ship that only floats in New York Harbor.  He is far too liberal to get the Republican nomination.  

I've never witnessed a more laughable game of collective "Let's pretend" than the media's Giuliani coverage.  Even Dick Morris, the erstwhile Clinton propaganda minister who fancies himself the Niccolo Machiavelli of the third millennium, has called Giuliani the man to beat.   

He's more like the man who will be beaten - and by more than one candidate, mind you.

The media love to point out how Giuliani is the poll-leader for the Republican nomination, a fact which means absolutely nothing.  All many people in middle America know about him is that he didn't pull a Ray Nagin on 9/11 - he stoically shepherded his city through that dark hour - and that he rendered a captivating, earthy speech at the 2004 Republican National Convention.  And on his list of credits I'll add that after ferociously battling the mafia as a United States Attorney, he followed suit as mayor and cleaned up NYC, reducing crime and improving quality of life. 

This is all well and good but, unfortunately, Giuliani only looks palatable when viewed through the narrow prism of these few events.  And sometime very soon the average Republican voter will learn something: Liberal NY Republicans are different from liberal NY Democrats.  They have an "R" next to their names.

As mayor, Giuliani never missed a chance to march in the "Gay Pride" parade.  He actively supported "gay rights" and said he was "proud" of his domestic partnership initiative (a step toward anti-marriage).  Most egregiously, he once opined that homosexuality is "good and normal." 

Giuliani also favored government funding for abortion and said that the type of infanticide known as "partial-birth abortion" should not be outlawed in NY.  And while he now says he is "personally opposed to abortion," he also once asserted, "I'd give my daughter the money for it [an abortion]."  I guess he thinks his kids should have the right to choose and receive Big Daddy funding.

Giuliani has also been an advocate of abridging Second Amendment rights and the type of invidious discrimination known as affirmative action.  He has opposed school prayer and tuition tax credits.  He at one time said he endeavors to resurrect the spirit of Rockefeller Republicanism and that he would consider endorsing Bill Clinton, stating "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."  Then, he did in fact endorse ultra-liberal NY governor Mario Cuomo in 1994.  Anyway, enough about that.  You get the idea.

My point is that Giuliani's golfer son has more of a chance of winning the Masters (he is a phenomenal player) than father does of capturing the Republican nomination.  Allow me to lend this some perspective.

The hate-America-first crowd likes to say, perhaps when pondering the political prospects of Lady Macbeth and  Barack Obama, that no woman or black person could be elected president.   But now let's talk about something unprecedented that actually is impossible. 

To the best of my knowledge:

- No pro-abortion candidate has ever won the Republican nomination.

- Nobody who has been in bed with the homosexual lobby has ever won the Republican nomination. 

- Nobody who has opposed Second Amendment rights has ever won the Republican nomination. 

And some think a man saddled with all three negatives will do so in 2008?

What I find truly amazing is that this reality escapes Giuliani.  What is this man thinking?  Does he fancy that the average Republican voter is a Times Echo?  Talk about believing your own press clippings.

The only interesting aspect of the Giuliani coverage is why the media would press forward, seemingly oblivious to the man's lack of viability.  The obvious answer is that it's an alluring story, as Giuliani has a marquee name and a scintillating, romantic persona.  It's also possible some in the Media wish to secure a Hillary versus Rudy match-up, thereby ensuring that a liberal will take the oath of office in 2009.  Then there's the fact that press lunkheads live such an insular existence, surrounded by so many fellow travelers, that they start to view themselves as the true center.  They then come to believe they represent a fair cross-section of America.  My guess, though, is that the coverage is probably attributable to all of the above.

Anyway, I don't know what Giuliani's presidential "exploratory committee" told him a while back, but I could have provided the truth at a tenth the cost.  Mr. Mayor, you'd stand a better chance running as an independent; then you might at least be able to make a respectable showing.  But, really, you'd be best off devoting your resources to any PGA Tour ambitions your son may be nursing.  You miss left far too much to be a contender.

[jla]

"FLOP SWEAT" is an old theatre term and yes, I know exactly what it means.

What was Will Rogers like in person?

[dmw]

"Talking about Jim Robinson? Yeah, he's just an awful right wing extremist isn't he?"

I probably should have added a sarcasm tag so that there is no confusion here. Consider it done.

[dmw]

flop sweat : Nervous perspiration caused by a fear of failure before an audience.

Information from urbandictionary.com.

[OldFriend]

Hate to burst your bubble but at one time or another EVERY republican President has held liberal views on abortion.

I would have to exclude the present President, but certainly Reagan, GHWBush, Ford, to name a few. Most likely Nixon as well.

One thing for sure, even Reagan signed into law a more liberal abortion law when he was Governor of California.

[don-o]

OK

Thanks. Don't think I need to add it to my vocabulary, though

[OldFriend]

The same people who are raging against Rudy are the ones who raged against Arnold in CA. Insisting that McClintock ws going to be elected governor.

California is not about to elect a conservative candidate. The last chance they had was Hirshenson.....IIRC.......

Wilson was liberal and endured endless vicious attacks from the far right.

While there are those who live in a bubble of their own making, the rest of the country is not on the far right. Not now, not ever!

The elections are usually turned on the issues of the day. With Carter is was a reaction to the Watergate scandal, Reagan a reaction to the feckless incompetent Carter. We all are well aware of the next elections.

America is now at war, most people are not putting Roe v Wade at the top of their priority list.

It's national security, stupid!

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I am always amazed at the number of actual leftists on FR who think they are conservatives.

Leftists have no trouble allowing MILLIONS of ILLEGALS to get public housing, welfare benefits, food stamps and bankrupt our health institutions (both public and private)...

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

It's national security, stupid!

Borders???

Arming yourselves???

[dmw]

LOL! Yeah, me either!

[jla]

FUHGETTABOUTIT Rudy....... Conservatives don't vote for liberals!

[Vaquero]

New York City Sues Gun Industry

By Mayor Rudy Giuliani

On June 20th, I was pleased to announce that the City of New York filed a lawsuit against two dozen major gun manufacturers and distributors. This is an industry which profits from the suffering of innocent people. The lawsuit is intended to end the free pass that the gun industry has enjoyed for a very long time, which has resulted in too many avoidable deaths. The suit alleges a number of illegal practices on the part of the gun manufacturers, including:

* Deliberately manufacturing many more firearms than can be bought for legitimate purposes such as hunting and law enforcement, and knowingly targeting these excess guns to criminals, youths and other persons unqualified to buy firearms;

* Deliberately undermining New York City's gun control laws by flooding other markets which have less stringent gun laws with firearms that the manufacturers know are destined to be illegally resold in New York City;

* Ignoring the illegal practices of gun distributors, many of whom openly engage in the above practices;

* Refusing to manufacture safer guns, with features such as trigger locks and "personalization" measures that allow only authorized persons to fire the weapon.

[LIConFem]

"...ignore all polling data showing that the base likes Rudy...even in ALABAMA and won't acknowledge it's his to lose."

That's just it... Duke talks about this "game of 'Let's Pretend'", yet he's doing just that by ignoring the polls.

By the way, I happen to agree with his assessment of Giuliani, and I pray that we're smart enough to elect another, (much) more conservative candidate to be the 'Pubbie nominee. But to ingore Giuliani's popularity -- to simply deny, in spite of evidence to the contrary, that it doesn't exist -- is downright dangerous, and we do so at our own peril.

[dmw]

Dat's da trut!

[Jhensy]

This myth that Rudy is 'Mr. Gay' is flat-out laughable. Don't believe it. I've posted this before, and it looks like I'll be posting it several more times:

Rudy Giuliani was hated, despised and vilified by the gay community his entire tenure as Mayor. Non-stop, for 8 years. You want an idea? Click here for ACT-UP's recap of their love for him. (safe for work... but don't click if you're uncomfortable with going to an AIDS-activist site):

Stop Rudy

You want pictures of gays protesting Giuliani, mocking him in effigy, I can post those too. Here's some reasons ACT-UP hates Giuliani (from the above link):

Because Rudy doesn't care about e-quality of life
Because Rudy defends killer cops and racist policing
Because homelessness isn't a crime
Because Housing is a human right
Because Rudy's Workfare program destroys families
Because Rudy is out to destroy labor unions
Because Rudy plays politics with education
Because Rudy has demolished the New York City healthcare system
Because Rudy supports censorship of art and the suppression of freedom of expression
Because Rudy sold out Times Square to Disney and other corporate interests
Because Rudy slashed services for people with HIV
Because Rudy has harassed queers
Because closing Adult Businesses was puritanical
Because New York City needs community gardens
Because spending tens of Millions of dollars on a Bunker at the WTC was plain stupid
Because Rudy doesn't represent us
Because Rudy is just too damn arrogant
Because Rudy will do even more damage
Because we are long fed up with Rudy

I had to listen to this CRAP over and over for 8 years as a NYer, so forgive me for having a laugh at this FR hysteria about Rudy doing the gay lobby's bidding. Unreal.

[Jazzman1]

let the early entries slug it out and tire. Then let Newt come in for the nomination and the VICTORY. He is AMerica's only hope!

[Coldwater Creek]

So if you have degrees in finance, and work for a fortune 500 company, and can't support gun grabbers, baby killers, and wife cheaters, you can't be trusted? Did i get that straight?

[MichiganConservative]

After blowing some 2-3 trillion dollars and getting absolutely nothing accomplished despite having all three branches of government...regarding ...tax reform....tort reform...entitlement reform....runaway spending...the social right has blown it....it is time for the Yankees to take the wheel.

Why exactly is it that you think that Rudi will be a tax cutter and government shrinker? People thought that about a Republican Congress. I'm not sure there are any "Republicans" left who actually would be interested in shrinking government except maybe Ron Paul who consistenly votes no on anything not specifically listed in the US Constitution as something on which the government can spend money.

[presently no screen name]

Your sarcasm and unwillingness to be honest says it all.

You REFUSE to list Hillary's and Obama's accomplishments.

Go Rudy! They lie and deny at the mention of your name!

[presently no screen name]

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[Antoninus]

Rudy is dead meat for the Hildabeast. That's why the media wants him so bad.