Posted on 02/20/2007 6:57:46 AM PST by meg88
I am pro-life
[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000
TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999
MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?
MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...
MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]
MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....
MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?
MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000
But since people pay millions of dollars to hear him speak, you're in the minority.
By that logic, Al Gore is also an excellent public speaker.
I don't think people are paying to hear Al Gore speak, so much as to worship the junk science behind his quasi-religion.
You do make a very good point, though,,,
A LIBERAL like Rudy could CARE LESS ABOUT WHAT CONSERVATIVES THINK ABOUT HIM!!!....LOL
Thanks for making our point!
I'd sure like to see the Justice Department be forced to take the same posture as the NYPD did when Rudy was mayor.
"In the mean time - we can all keep our own houses in order and ensure our children are raised with the values we embrace - while our leaders do their job." (Jake the Goose)
I agree 100%! I don't send my Congressman and two Senators to DC to deal with social issues -- they belong in my home, my church, my community and on rare occasions in my state.
Believe we will see some type of a split when we lose the social conservatives that jumped on the Republican bandwagon expecting Republicans to cater to their every need of legislating morality to suit their demands. That has not happened and now they are in a snit for the most part. We lost big in 2006 so we have to reach out to people that are concerned where this Nation is headed on the WOT and other important national issues.
No candidate that can win is going to be able to appease some of these voters. We have to build new coalitions and bring back in some of the voters the unappeaseables have driven away with their my way or no way approach that does not work.
Been a Conservative my whole adult life but I have learned over the past month that my Conservatism mirrors the Contract with America not what some of these people on here claim Conservtives have to be.
Read the thread on the platform and had my laugh. The days of the platform planks coming down to fist fights are over. My Uncle used to sit on the platform committee in the good old days when they would actually come to blows about the platform. It has been tea and crumpets for years and after all the Conventions at all levels, the platform is put back in the file cabinet until the next Convention. Each group gets their piece of the pie now and can go away claiming victory.
Back in the smoked filled backroom days, the candidates were searching for delegates up until the final talley was announced. Many of our candidates including Ronald Reagan in 1980 went to the Convention not sure of the final tally. Those days are gone and so are most of the caucus systems in states to be replaced by statewide primaries.
It is a new era in politics and political campaigns. Most voters live by the soundbite and why someone like Rudy is surging ahead. Takes million(s) to run a nationwide campaign, a huge staff of the best in the business consultants, and a demeanor that attracts voters. Vast majority of Americans don't care about social issues like they do on here. They care about being safe when they go shopping, go to sporting events, and other entertainment venues along with having the money to afford to do things. If that wasn't the case, you would have millions of people marching in the pro-life march in D.C. or on the flip side in the anti-war marches by the left. You don't have these huge numbers compared to the population of this Nation.
My children have been taught what is right and wrong from an early age and are conservative -- note that I said conservative not a labeled conservative.
That would be awesome and fun to watch!
Thank you,
Pls read my post at #52
Gee, do you think if we went on a Duncan Hunter thread and put good things about Rudy in the keywords the mods would be all over us? I thought so.
But I note the immaturity level fo those freepers who are having their little fun.
Well, we'll be the ones laughing when Rudy gets the nomination. LOL
That's what I like best about Rudy -- I think he could be the best administrator we've ever had. I don't know about his political skills, positions on Right To Life issues, understanding of foreign policy, or how he squares his love for illegals with being a law and order guy. But I'm definitely willing to give him a long look.
I see your dilemma and understand.
Rudy's comments the other night in a Larry King interview said he was against any PBA law that did not include the life/health of the mother which is consistent with what I just found on Find Law where the life/health of the mother is the exemption to the law:
SEC. 3. PROHIBITION ON PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS.
The Congress finds and declares the following:
(a) IN GENERAL. -- Title 18 United States Code, is amended by inserting after chapter 73 the following:
CHAPTER 74 -- PARTIAL-BIRTH ABORTIONS
"Sec.
"1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited
§1531. Partial-birth abortions prohibited
(a) Any physician who, in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowingly performs a partial-birth abortion and thereby kills a human fetus shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both. This subsection does not apply to a partial-birth abortion that is necessary to save the life of a mother whose life is endangered by a physical disorder, physical illness, or physical injury, including a life-endangering physical condition caused by or arising from the pregnancy itself. This subsection takes effect 1 day after the date of enactment of this chapter.
IMO, Rudy like a lot of other Americans changed on 9-11 and comments and beliefs they held prior are not the same today. I think it is wrong to take his comments from 1999 and bring them forth to today like he made them yesterday. Some of us change over the years -- Pres Bush #41 was pro-choice when he joined the ticket with Pres Reagan but then his son adopted and he became pro-life. I thought those of us who are pro-life were about changing the hearts and minds of not only candidates but people we meet every day.
We don't change hearts and minds by what I am seeing on this site recently. Putting up pictures that used to be banned and comments taken from sometime ago to tar and feather a candidate does not win any hearts and minds. In fact, it is driving people away as people are labeled trolls for daring to disagree.
People change -- I have changed and will continue to change as I learn more each day. Views I held when I was 18 are not the same as they are today except I was a Conservative then and am a Conservative now. I have learned over the years that you don't always get everything you want in candidates, but you look at them as a whole not at one particular issue. I vote for people I think are best for the Country as a whole because when they take office they have the enormous responsibility of guiding a whole nation just not one group.
I want constructionist judges appointed because as a State's Rights person I want social issues returned to the States.
My more than two cents!
http://www.joinrudy2000.com
Oh, yes, and I just love the calm, reasoned, UNBIASED way that poll was presented! LOL! I wonder what the results would be if only *names* had been used in that poll -- instead of name-calling.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.