[RetiredArmy]

I agree with you Jim. However, I think many Americans remember Bush as saying he was conservative in the beginnings and that is what they remember, and now they see what we have. Insecure borders, illegals pouring across the borders, making illegals legal by ignoring our own laws, etc. I think a lot of people who are border line conservatives and tip one way or the other, look at this and think, well if he is considered a conservative, then why do I want a conservative. Plus, more and more have their hands stuck out for government freebies, and the Marxists in D.C. are filling those hands. The Global Warming lies, all the other MSM propaganda that they believe in 30-second sound bites. Don't mess up my reality TV, the BIG GAME, pizza night, porno on the Internet, and life is good. That is how far this country has fallen. I am beginning to doubt that the Republic can actually be saved. If 20 million illegals suddenly can vote, the conservative movement is finished. We will simply be out numbered.

[mek1959]

Retire Army - sadly, I agree with you. The culture is so far gone at this point, I'm not sure we can pull back, or for that matter, how it would even happen. I do know that we cannot count on the federal government to do it.

Ideas?

[Kevmo]

If 20 million illegals suddenly can vote, the conservative movement is finished. We will simply be out numbered.
***That is probably the democrat plan.

[Jim Robinson]

"I agree with you Jim. However, I think many Americans remember Bush as saying he was conservative in the beginnings and that is what they remember, and now they see what we have. Insecure borders, illegals pouring across the borders, making illegals legal by ignoring our own laws, etc. I think a lot of people who are border line conservatives and tip one way or the other, look at this and think, well if he is considered a conservative, then why do I want a conservative."

Well, I don't know. I seem to remember he made a big deal about being a "compassionate" conservative. And that's one of the things I didn't like about him. I'd much prefer a traditional, hard as nails, no nonsense conservative.