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A winning conservative platform for 2008?
Opinion | Jim Robinson

Posted on 02/19/2007 1:14:04 AM PST by Jim Robinson

Edited on 02/19/2007 2:20:11 AM PST by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: jmc813

lol, but we need the “loserdopian” and “liberaltarian” crowd for the comic relief. :)


641 posted on 05/22/2007 7:59:15 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Iwo Jima

And his invitation for me to leave was encouraging debate? Surely you’re not that dense.


642 posted on 05/22/2007 8:11:19 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

You threw the first punch with your classy “shut up” command.


643 posted on 05/22/2007 8:14:31 AM PDT by Iwo Jima ("Close the border. Then we'll talk.")
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To: Jim Robinson

After reading this I now understand the problem we’re having with our “current” elected leaders.


644 posted on 05/22/2007 9:17:51 AM PDT by PEACE ENFORCER (Liberals; People That are So Open minded Their Brains Have Fallen Out !)
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To: VxH

I like how you think.


645 posted on 05/22/2007 10:13:30 AM PDT by Boxsford
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
We had a popular Conservative as POTUSA. Next was a one term moderate.

That might be somewhat oversimplified and debatable, assuming you are referring to Reagan as the former, and Bush 1 as the latter. Reagan had a chance to reshape the courts for decades to come. SDO was selected while we had a GOP majority. Yes, Kennedy came after 2 conservatives were defeated by a Dem senate. And Scalia has been great.

But the way I see it, is that Reagan got 1 out of 3 right, when he should have gotten at least 2 right, since there is no excuse for SDO. Bush 1 gave us the best justice maybe ever in Clarence Thomas. He also gave us Souter, so, OUCH! But 1 out of 2 is better than 1 out of 3. As for Bush 2 being a 2 term moderate, well, he is so far 2 for 2, giving us a legitimate chance of restoring constitutional sanity.

It does not matter how many elections we win if we allow a social activist court to usurp our self government. So, yes, I am one of those that think that SCOTUS nominations is the primary consideration when determining the label I place on a POTUS.

Don't get me wrong, I loved and admired Reagan. He did things for the judiciary in the lower courts and his staffing that set up our current opportunities (ala Roberts) for reform. I remember crying as a 10 year old boy when he left office.

Also, Reagan and Bush 2 have something in common that makes us all cringe. Amnesty for illegals. It happened then, and it is going to happen again.

I don't think there is enough evidence to call one a conservative, and another a moderate. They are a mixed bag for sure, but no doubt better than the Dem alternatives at any given time.

646 posted on 05/22/2007 10:16:22 AM PDT by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: Iwo Jima

What would be your natural reaction if I told you to quit whining and leave the forum forever?


647 posted on 05/22/2007 10:44:14 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Mobile Vulgus

“... oh and I forgot to say, you’ll lose EVERY big state with many of the things on that platform. Without big states you lose.”

I’m from Texas and take exception to this. Except for the dope-smoking hippy commune known as Austin, we are as conservative as they come. Nothing in Jim’s list would bother us here. Quite the contrary - Texas only comes into play if you run a liberal Republican.


648 posted on 05/22/2007 12:00:52 PM PDT by WWTD
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To: BillyBoy

bump for Walberg, Shuler, Bill Sali, et al.


649 posted on 05/22/2007 3:08:38 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Jim Robinson

My husband Quint and I absolutely do not believe it.

Hillary Clinton is just not going to happen. By the time her campaign continues too much longer, she’s going to start losing rating points every time she goes out there on the campaign trail.

Maybe when she gets to about 10 points, she’ll fold her campaign for president.


650 posted on 05/22/2007 3:48:52 PM PDT by janereinheimer ((I can do all things through Him who strengthens me.))
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To: Dog Gone

Terrific post.


651 posted on 05/22/2007 8:54:25 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Kevmo
They’re probably happier over there, certainly while the have nice, pretty poll results to ogle over until the primary season starts.

Truth is that while there are many WAkers who support Rudy, they'd drop him like a cheap trick if Fred Thompson were to declare.

They just want to do anything to keep Hillary or some other Marxist socialist out of the White House.

...which IMO is very honorable.

652 posted on 05/22/2007 9:12:15 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Spiff
No, YOU shut up! Like I said, you've been bitching and moaning for over a month about how your liberal buddies quit the site or got zapped.

Earth to Spiff...they weren't liberals.

That schtick is getting old in here...calling anyone who disagrees with dogma in here liberals.

Cut it out!

653 posted on 05/22/2007 9:17:44 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: Iwo Jima; Dog Gone
You threw the first punch with your classy “shut up” command.

The hell he did.

654 posted on 05/22/2007 9:22:33 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
Earth to Spiff...they weren't liberals. That schtick is getting old in here...calling anyone who disagrees with dogma in here liberals. Cut it out!

Supporters of Rudy Giuliani are either liberal or stupid. There's no other kind.

655 posted on 05/22/2007 9:27:32 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
Being called stupid is a compliment compared to being called a liberal.

So let's agree to not calling them liberals, OK? ;^)

656 posted on 05/22/2007 9:29:22 PM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
Being called stupid is a compliment compared to being called a liberal. So let's agree to not calling them liberals, OK? ;^)

No. Many of the people who were banned or quit the site did so because they possessed a bunch of liberal ideas that were in line with Giuliani's liberal ideas. If someone has liberal views, they're going to be defined as a liberal. Howlin, for instance, was strongly pro-Bush but that didn't make her a conservative. She was for Bush's open border amnesty crap, was a supporter of the gay agenda, and was a pro-abort. That's a liberal. I could give several similar examples of the people who were banned or left. They've take up residence at WA where they've taken their faux conservative masks off and are talking up a liberal storm. A few weeks ago, they called us the "fetus wing" of the Republican Party. Yesterday, they used the term the "Tourrettes Wing". They refer to conservative FReepers as "FRinge" and call the website the "trailer park" site. They are ugly and liberal to the bone. I call them as I see them.

657 posted on 05/22/2007 9:40:44 PM PDT by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: DCPatriot

They just want to do anything to keep Hillary or some other Marxist socialist out of the White House. ...which IMO is very honorable.
***If they’re so honorable, why did so many diss JimRob on their way out the door? Why so much invective aimed at social conservatives? If they want to do ANYTHING, why couldn’t they hold their mustard about their disdain for socons when they were enjoying all the benefits of a socon forum? No, I do not see honor there. If they were honorable, we’d be seeing several of them coming back ALREADY, now that rudy has played out his hand and become honest about his liberal positions. Where are those freepers who twisted themselves into pretzels to try to prove that rudy was a conservative? If they were honorable, they’d be back here. If they were honorable, they’d be posting hypotheticals on their own website asking how many rudybots would follow him if he declared a third party candidacy in the event of not receiving the republican nomination.


658 posted on 05/22/2007 9:46:33 PM PDT by Kevmo (Duncan Hunter just needs one Rudy G Campaign Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVBtPIrEleM)
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To: Jim Robinson
What say you?
That it all sounds nice and good, but which candidate, or potential candidate, fits your bill? Who are we to "rally 'round"?
Apparently none of the current candidates does or you would've mentioned them (a guess on my part). I haven't seen you speak out for any candidate yet. (or maybe you have and I've just missed it since your "house" is so big these days)

I'm glad you came around on closing the border. I remember a post of your a while back where you compared fencing off the border to building the Berlin Wall.

659 posted on 05/22/2007 10:41:56 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: Jim Robinson

You say cut spending and cut government. While I agree, I think a more sophisticated approach to that would be better than across the board cuts we usually see. When a good CEO takes over a conglomerate, he focuses on the core mission and sells of those ventures that do not contribute to that. I would like to see the feds divest themselves of myriad past projects such as AMTRACK, the Post Office, and owner of half of the land in the West. (This is not China where the government owns all of the land.) Pay down the debt with the proceeds. Then, as Zell Miller suggested, move the government bureaucracy offices to states where people need the work. Moving should include reforming and streamlining. Then cut the taxes some more until the only thing in Washington are those working on the constitutionally mandated core mission and accountable for getting it right.


660 posted on 05/23/2007 7:18:05 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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