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To: Post-Neolithic
Heres the facts, if the Senate and House passes a Pro-Gay bill(IE. Gay Marriage), which is very possible given the current make-up of the House and Senate,and the President is Pro-Gay then the bill passes and becomes law. If the President is Anti-Gay-Marriage and this same type of bill passes, the President vetos said bill, the House and Senate has to get a 2/3 majority to override the veto.

Nice try, but marriage is defined at the stat level.
50 posted on 02/18/2007 3:00:18 PM PST by LtdGovt ("Where government moves in, community retreats and civil society disintegrates" -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: LtdGovt
...but marriage is defined at the stat level.

No, it is not...

REYNOLDS v. UNITED STATES, 98 U.S. 145, 98 U.S. 145, October Term, 1878.

Look it up...

59 posted on 02/18/2007 3:04:19 PM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: LtdGovt
"Nice try, but marriage is defined at the stat level."

Hmm ok, so what you are saying is that the President of these United States plays absolutely no role in a Marriage bill? Suppose the House and Senate pass a bill that says states that do not support gay marriage can no longer receive Federal monies for anything?

I will give you one very big example, Seat Belt Laws.

74 posted on 02/18/2007 3:11:16 PM PST by Post-Neolithic (Money only makes Communists rich Communists)
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How Electable Is Rudy Giuliani Really?

One of the biggest selling points for Rudy Giuliani is supposed to be that he's "electable" because a lot of independents and Democrats will vote for him. The problem with that sort of thinking is that if he becomes the Republican nominee, the very liberal mainstream media will spend nine months relentlessly savaging him in an effort to help the Democrats. Because of that, Giuliani's sky high polling numbers with non-Republicans are 100% guaranteed to drop significantly before election time rolls around in 2008.

That is not necessarily a problem; after all the mainstream media is always against the Republican nominee, if -- and this is a big "if" -- the GOP nominee has strong support from the Republican base.

The big problem Rudy has is that he isn't going to be able to generate that kind of support. For one thing, as a candidate, he offers almost nothing to social conservatives, without whom a victory for George Bush in 2004 wouldn't have been possible. If the choice in 2008 comes down to a Democrat and a pro-abortion, soft on gay marriage, left-of-center candidate on social issues -- like Rudy -- you can be sure that millions of "moral values voters" will simply stay home and cost the GOP the election.

The other issue is in the South. George Bush swept every Southern state in 2000 and 2004, which is quite an impressive feat when you consider that the Democrats had Southerner Al Gore at the top of the ticket in 2000 and John Edwards as the veep in 2004. Unfortunately, a pro-abortion, soft on gay marriage, pro-gun control RINO from New York City just isn't going to be able to repeat that performance. Even against a carpetbagger like Hillary Clinton, it's entirely likely that you'll see at least 2 or 3 states in the South turn from red to blue if Rudy Giuliani is the nominee.

excerpt http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=16762


259 posted on 02/18/2007 6:04:49 PM PST by Sun (Vote for Duncan Hunter in the primaries. See you there.)
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