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Assault Rifles for Hunters? (Zumbo goes mad)
Remington Country website ^ | 16 FEB 2007 | Jim Zumbo

Posted on 02/18/2007 11:32:57 AM PST by xsrdx

As I write this, I'm hunting coyotes in southeastern Wyoming with Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, Greg Dennison, who is senior research engineer for Remington, and several writers. We're testing Remington's brand new .17 cal Spitfire bullet on coyotes.

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.

I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers."

Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms."

This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the praries and woods.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; guns; secondamendment
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To: Armedanddangerous
He's done..maybe he can get a job with the Hillary Clinton as the representative to outdoor groups of Fudds.

Not Hillary, but rather Rudy Guiliani another anti-gun traitor running as a republican.

261 posted on 02/19/2007 11:45:43 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: wysiwyg
Due to the controversy surrounding Jim Zumbo’s recent postings, Outdoor Life has decided to discontinue the “Hunting With Zumbo” blog for the time being.

"For the time being", huh? We'll see. For now, though, all OL has done is yank the blog page to cut off critical comments.

262 posted on 02/19/2007 11:51:17 AM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Joe Brower
Hey, who knows -- maybe now Remington will start making AR-15s, as penance. $;-)

What does Remington do better or offer that the several-dozen other AR15 clone builders don't already offer? Possible answer: a Remington 5R-type barrel built for the AR15 or M4. Though there have been rumbles that some current-production Remington rifles are using Chinese-made barrels.

An all-stainless Remington R15 would be a little heavier than an allow Colt or clone. But I bet a lot of buyers would go for it if they'd produce it, particularly in a matrh-grade barrel version.

263 posted on 02/19/2007 11:55:23 AM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: philetus

"Stand over the hole and blast the buggers out with sustained automatic fire?"

That's what grenades are for...


264 posted on 02/19/2007 11:56:46 AM PST by Noumenon (The Koran is the Mein Kampf of a religion that has always aimed to eliminate the others - O. Fallaci)
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To: walkerk
It appears that Outdoor Life has now shut down his blog.

Seems that the Outdoor Life folks get the purpose of the 2nd Amend even if Dumbo Zumbo doesn't IT AIN'T ABOUT HUNTING!! (I wonder what happened to my neat RPG graphic in post 233 Is there a Zumbo in the admin mods?)

265 posted on 02/19/2007 11:57:11 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: Hot Tabasco
"Looks like Mr. Zumbo issued a followup apology on his blogsite......... Wonder if anyone here read it..."

Yeah, I read it. CYA tactic.

266 posted on 02/19/2007 12:01:37 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
One good thing, before this I had never heard the term "Fudd" before. Once I figured it out, I realized I've seen hundreds of them over the years. :)

Now you know, you wascally wabbit!

[Just quit dressing up like a girl rabbit, and the Fudds will leave you alone]


267 posted on 02/19/2007 12:03:15 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: Armedanddangerous
He's done..maybe he can get a job with the Hillary Clinton as the representative to outdoor groups of Fudds.

They are the only ones who will tolerate him now.

Maybe he can get a gig as a backup singer for the Dixie Chicks?


268 posted on 02/19/2007 12:05:56 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: philetus
...and why noy[t]? Didn't Remington market this AUTOMATIC rifle for kids, years ago?

Ah, a Remington Nylon 66! Best .22 rifle ever made. Had one as a teenager in the late '60s. Fired nearly 20,000 rounds out of it and it NEVER, even once, jammed!

269 posted on 02/19/2007 12:10:03 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: archy
I like this one, courtesy of one of the nice folks over at AR-15.com:

Nothing fancy about it, but it speaks loud and clear.

270 posted on 02/19/2007 12:10:28 PM PST by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
There may be a species more obnoxious and insufferable than the hunting snob, but I can't think of what it might be.

Catch & release fly-fishing snobs.

271 posted on 02/19/2007 12:15:38 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Charles Martel
"For the time being", huh? We'll see. For now, though, all OL has done is yank the blog page to cut off critical comments.

Well, several posters had requested that the blog be pulled. But that horse is already out of the barn.

And somewhere there's another webmaster wondering "Why does stuff like this always happen on a holiday weekend?" :-)
272 posted on 02/19/2007 12:16:47 PM PST by walkerk
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To: xsrdx

They've pulled his blog, hopefully he'll be out of a job. No more free guns, no more free gear, no more free hunting trips to exclusive "camps" the average hunter will never see, no more expense accounts, etc, etc.


273 posted on 02/19/2007 12:19:28 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: xsrdx

He's right about hunting and military rifles.


But the Second Amendment isn't about hunting.


274 posted on 02/19/2007 12:30:12 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: xsrdx
Jim Zumbo is a professional hunter idoit and outdoor writer .
275 posted on 02/19/2007 12:38:17 PM PST by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: righthand man
and outdoor writer .

and Former outdoor writer

276 posted on 02/19/2007 12:42:53 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: MAF

Anyone with the last name "Zumbo" already lands on my bad side!


277 posted on 02/19/2007 12:44:03 PM PST by Registered (Politics is the art of the possible)
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To: from occupied ga
Jim Zumbo = typical MSM writer = anything antigun
278 posted on 02/19/2007 12:47:45 PM PST by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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To: Registered

There's a photoshop thread on www.AR15.com.

Funny stuff, but they're not ready for primetime at your level.


279 posted on 02/19/2007 12:50:48 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: facedown
LOL! Live ammo could solve a lot of problems in Hollywood.

If you ever get the chance, pick up a rental video of the 1970 yawner-Adventure flick The Adventurers, based on a Harold Robbins novel that at least had Ernie Borgnine in a supporting role as *FatCat*.

Partially filmed in Colombia, the helpful Colombian military lent some troops as extras for a couple of battle scenes, and some armored vehicles for the grand battle of the revolutionaries taking over the National Palace in the capitol city of *Corteguay.* Unfortunately, the movie makers had brought the wrong blank ammo for the 7mm Mauser rifles used by the Colombian army at that time... No problemo, Señor; the officers in charge told their soldados to fire at each other using live ammo, but to just *miss over the heads by a little bit...*

Which they for the most part obediently did, but for one poor goof who took a hit on-camera and tumbled off the hillside perch where he'd looked so realistic! as he fell.... In fact, it looked sooooogood that they left it in the film. Now THAT is putting yourself into your part!

In the city scene with the armored cars, the extras portraying the revolutionary mob intent on stringing up the dictator bypass the street guarded by the cars' roadblock and slip around via the beach instead.

After the movie's completion and the actors had returned to Hollywood, the fraudulent election of Misael Pastrana Borrero in 1970 [in Colombia, not Hollywood] resulted in the defeat of the relatively populist candidate Gustavo Rojas Pinilla, followed by mass demonstrations that resulted in a State of Siege after the mob, you guessed it, evaded major streets blocked by military vehicles and instead came up the beach....

Unfortunately, Santafé de Bogotá, the capitol of Colombia, unlike fictional *Corteguay* is located in the country's interior, far from such helpful beaches. And Borrero and his National Front party stayed in power until 1974.

280 posted on 02/19/2007 12:52:33 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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