Assault Rifles for Hunters? (Zumbo goes mad)

Remington Country website ^ | 16 FEB 2007 | Jim Zumbo

[xsrdx]

As I write this, I'm hunting coyotes in southeastern Wyoming with Eddie Stevenson, PR Manager for Remington Arms, Greg Dennison, who is senior research engineer for Remington, and several writers. We're testing Remington's brand new .17 cal Spitfire bullet on coyotes.

I must be living in a vacuum. The guides on our hunt tell me that the use of AR and AK rifles have a rapidly growing following among hunters, especially prairie dog hunters. I had no clue. Only once in my life have I ever seen anyone using one of these firearms.

I call them "assault" rifles, which may upset some people. Excuse me, maybe I'm a traditionalist, but I see no place for these weapons among our hunting fraternity. I'll go so far as to call them "terrorist" rifles. They tell me that some companies are producing assault rifles that are "tackdrivers."

Sorry, folks, in my humble opinion, these things have no place in hunting. We don't need to be lumped into the group of people who terrorize the world with them, which is an obvious concern. I've always been comfortable with the statement that hunters don't use assault rifles. We've always been proud of our "sporting firearms."

This really has me concerned. As hunters, we don't need the image of walking around the woods carrying one of these weapons. To most of the public, an assault rifle is a terrifying thing. Let's divorce ourselves from them. I say game departments should ban them from the praries and woods.

[SJackson]

For head shots only. Personally, i wouldn't eat one of those things.

Here are some great recipes for your dining pleasure. These have been sent in by some active prairie dog fishermen.

Prairie Dog Stew

Ingredients:
1 prairie dog, quartered
1 cup diced onion
2 large tomatoes (from your garden) or 1 can of tomatoes
Assorted fresh ,or canned veggies

Preparation:
Sprinkle seasoned salt, pepper, and cayenne pepper (optional) liberally on the meat. Pour some cooking oil into a large pot (dutch oven). Sauté the meat with the onions until well browned. Drain the excess oil, add about 2 cups water, and bring to a boil. Cut up the tomatoes and add. If you use canned tomatoes add them now. Turn down the heat, and let slow cook for at least an hour. Important: older prairie dogs may require cooking longer than an hour. Check periodically for tenderness. If you don't you will have a hard time chewing the meat. After the meat is tender, add the veggies, carrots, potatoes, banana pepper, what ever you like. Cook until the veggies are done. An option you can use is, cook up your favorite pasta and serve over the pasta. (eliminate the potatoes). That's it, nice and simple

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Prairie Dog Pie

Clean, skin and cut two prairie dogs into small pieces. Soak in salted water, or water with a little vinegar added, changing water several times. Drain, dry and roll in seasoned flour. Sauté in pork or bacon fat until slightly browned, then place in greased pie dish or bowl, add two cups liquid (made up of wine, cider, beer, crushed fruit , or a little vinegar, and water or stock), salt and pepper, one thinly sliced onion, herbs of your choice. Cover and cook on top stove for 1 ½, or in moderate oven for two hours. Remove and thicken the stock with a little flour. Take out part of the gravy and add tomatoes, sauce or catsup, to serve with the pie. Meanwhile, cover meat dish with pastry or biscuit dough, slit for steam to escape, and bake for 20 minutes in hot oven.

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BBQ Prairie Dog

1st. Take as many prairie dogs as you would like add salt and pepper. 2nd. Put prairie dogs on grill, bbq whatever let cook for a while, then add some liquid smoke or soy sauce on top and around prairie dogs. 3rd. When the prairie dogs are almost done cooking smear BBQ sauce all over the prairie dogs and let cook until done...( you can use any BBQ sauce you would like or you can try my very own recipe) located at below

BBQ SAUCE FOR PRAIRIE DOG 1 cup brown sugar
2 1/2 cup ketchup
3/4 cup mustard
3/4 cup liquid smoke or worcestershire sauce

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Honey and Cider Prairie Dog

2 young prairie dogs, dressed & halved
1/2 cup honey
2 cups apple cider
2 bay leaves, crushed
1 TBL cornstarch
2 TBL water

Pat prairie dog halves dry. Place on rack in broiler pan. Coat with half the honey. Broil 6 inches from heat source for 8 minutes. Turn. Coat with remaining honey. Broil for 8 minutes longer. Place in roasting pan. Pour cider over prairie dog. Add bay leaves. Roast @ 350 degrees for 1 hour or until tender. Remove to serving platter; keep warm. Strain pan drippings into saucepan. Dissolve cornstarch in water; stir into pan drippings. Cook over medium heat until thickened, stirring constantly. Serve with prairie dog. May serve with crisp shoestring potatoes and green salad. Yeild: 4 Servings.

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Buffalo Quarters

Ingredients:
1 Dozen Prairie Dog quarters, front and hind
1 bottle of hot sauce (could use louisana style, I prefer to find or make one with more of a tomato base than vinegar base. If you like super hot wings try to find Inner Beauty Sauce)
1 stick of margarine or butter (margarine works better)

Instructions:
Deep fry the quarters until golden brown. Soak out the grease. Preferred method is to shake in a brown bag. In a fry pan melt margarine and hot sauce together.
Dip dried, fried quarters in the hot sauce mixture. If you like them crispy put them on a baking sheet in the oven (350F) for 10 minutes.
The secret for my taste is to get them crispy in the deep fryer, then replace the grease in the crispy skin with hot sauce properly formulated in its own grease. There is no good way to go fat free on this one!

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Prairie Dog Wings

Here's the REAL "ORIGNAL" recipe for Prairie Dog Wings.

Instructions:
1) Mix flour and cyan pepper and toss the mix into a bag.
2) Dump a couple of bottles of Tabasco sauce in a plastic bag.
3) Dump some vinegar (the good kind that gets your wife mad when you use it) into a bowl.
4) Dip the prairie dog quarters in the vinegar.
5) Shake them in the flour mix (you want a light dusting).
6) Toss them in the Tabasco (get lots on em).
7) Deep fry until done.
8) Serve with blue cheese dressing (very cold), celery, and carrots.

Note: If they are not quite hot enough add more pepper or dump the juice from a couple bottles of jalapeno in with the Tabasco.

[george76]

Thanks for the ping.

[GeneralisimoFranciscoFranco]

I've been shooting prairie dogs for years with an AR15.

A. There's no one out on the prairie to see me and thereby have their delicate sensibilities brusied (although in WY, SD, MT, etc there aren'tmany with delicate sensibilities.)

B. Remingtons customer service cured me years ago from any further purchases before this jackass came along.

PS alost noone uses AK47s. Not even close to being accurate enough.

[KoRn]

I'd love to see how well this guy would do using a Remington 700 during a home invasion by multiple perpetrators. Even if he somehow managed to live, his .308 caliber weapon would probably go through his house and into another, killing someone innocent.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

If I remember correctly, David E. Petzal of Field and Stream made a similar statement about twelve years ago.
He also ended up "eating crow" for it.

[TYVets]

If I remember correctly, David E. Petzal of Field and Stream made a similar statement about twelve years ago.

Time Warner owns:

Field and Stream

Outdoor Life

AOL

HBO

[depressed in 06]

Sometimes, in being obtuse, I leave in some nuance about what it is I really want to say: the 2nd Amendment it there to defend the Constitution and revolution when it is corrupted. That is the duality I speak of. When it is no longer the Constitution we agreed to, we cannot under some pretense allow corruption to seep in in the name of socialization, i.e. go along to get along. "When in the course of human events ..." is built into our psyche. Foreign treaties become the law of the land, but, they cannot usurp the Constitution, they are subordinate. Kelo is prime example of the Constitution being corrupted. Is legal theft better than illegal theft?

(Please excuse the use of the word nuance, I don't want to sound like the despicable John Kerry. Please don't say too late.)

[SkyDancer]

I know what you mean. I went to our local gun range and sighted the gun in at 100 feet ... pistol range but here in the PNW it's a great brush gun. A former marine gunny told me that it's better than a .357magnum .....

[WLR]

The guy blew his cover...

Now let's see that the bosses dump his backside.

Rotten Liberal holding down the job of many a good conservative.



W

[shaggy eel]

No reason people have to use handguns for deer.

,,, next you'll be saying people don't need handguns! You're on the slippery slope now. It's like SUVs... someone said we don't need them and in a flash, even more SUVs filled supermarket carparks. Supermarkets are where I go hunting for my meat and that's where, ironically, I usually need a handgun.

[SampleMan]

Its not 'illegal' to have a person loading one gun while you shoot another. -- So, - theoretically, - a hunter could keep up an almost machine gun rate of fire..

Hopefully you haven't just discovered that many hunting/fishing laws are easily circumvented, but exist mainly as guidelines, because there is a strong expectation that hunters will realize the need to husband the resource and comply. It follows that not everyone will agree on how to do that, but that most will agree on the fairness of everyone abiding by the same rules without going to silly lengths to circumvent them.

Websters
Rational: 1 a : being in accordance with reason b : not extreme or excessive c : MODERATE, FAIR

[tpaine]

SampleMan:

"-- I'm not advocating a limitation, I don't see a reason for it. Neither do I see a reason to be sporting. --"

[SampleMan]

You're back from being banned. That didn't take long.

[SampleMan]

Out of curiosity, did you have some purpose in quoting me, or did you just think that there's never enough of my posts?

[Joe Brower]

Sounds like Jim Zumbo has 100% bought the bullsh!t. Like "Grits" Gresham, and Skeeter Skelton's father (forget his name).

Sorry, chums -- you may *think* you know the score, but thinking isn't knowing, and knowledge is not wisdom, both being properties that you "old timers" seem to have a decided lack of.

With "friends" like these, who needs enemas?

[El Laton Caliente]

PSL/RomakIII/SSG97 .308 or 7.62x54
Yugo M76 in 8mm or .308
Saiga in .308
Vepr .308

I'm in the middle of a Iraqi Tubuk sniper rifle build. It is a straight stocked M76 Yugo AK style rifle with a 23.6" barrel, RPK sights, scoped and a skeletonized Yugo style stock set. I'm having the barrel cryo'd before I intall it. We'll see what a 7.62x39 AK can really do.

[caver]

That's disappointing news. I have read Zumbo and thought I liked the guy until I seen his latest rant. I also read his so-called apology. If he wants to ban "assault rifles" for hunting, then he wants to ban them for any other purpose too.

[RKV]

Joe, I don't accept his "apology." This guy, and his fellow "Fudds" are the guys who got us to where we are today - which isn't a complement.

[TYVets]

Like a Remington 700?

U.N. gungrabbers have declared scoped bolt action rifles to be "medium range sniper weapons",,,

[kerryusama04]

I wonder if this dude thinks our soldiers are "terrorizing" the Afghani and Iraqi people with their menacing-looking black rifles.