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To: faq; dirtboy; EternalVigilance; Reagan Man; Liz; jla; dmw; don-o; TommyDale; NapkinUser; ...
Here's the TRUTH about the first terrorist attack in New York City during Giuliani's term as mayor. On 23 February 1997 an Islamic terrorist opened fire on the observation platform of the Empire State Building in New York City. This was a terrorist attack and is even listed as a "significant terrorist attack" on the U.S. State Department's website. How did Giuliani react to the first Islamic terrorist attack while he was mayor? He took the opportunity to immediately and openly politicize the event to advance his and the Democrats' agenda for national gun control and to praise Bill Clinton's gun control efforts.

Here's the relevant info and quotes:

U.S. State Department - Significant Terrorist Incidents 1961-2003

Empire State Building Sniper Attack, February 23, 1997: A Palestinian gunman opened fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland, and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claimed this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine."
Archives of Rudy Giuliani, Mayor's Message, 2 March 1997:
"Good morning. It has been a week since the terrible tragedy that happened last Sunday at the Empire State Building. And even as we grieve for the families and our hearts and prayers go out to them, perhaps we can use this senseless tragedy to re-energize the fight for gun control."

Archives of Rudy Giuliani, Major Addresses, Citizen's Crime Commission, 6 March 1997:
A couple of weeks ago, all New Yorkers and people throughout the world were appalled by the senseless and horrifying act of violence that occurred at the Empire State Building.

[snip]

Because of this transformation of perception, when this latest tragedy occurred, instead of having to defend New York City, we were able to focus national attention on the real problem, which is gun control. And even as we grieve for those who lost their lives, and our hearts and prayers go out to the victims and their loved ones, we may be able to find some sort of meaning in this tragedy by using it as a catalyst to revive national gun control efforts.

[snip]

Yesterday, President Clinton outlined his proposals for more stringent, federal gun licensing requirements. ... I applaud the President's proposals, and I will support them any way I can.

I only hope that he is right, and that Congress is finally ready to recognize that the vast majority of Americans want more gun control. It makes sense. It is time. And we can no longer let special interests dominate this vitally important issue.

[snip]

I know many people argue that keeping and bearing arms is federally guaranteed right as stated in the Second Amendment of the Constitution. But even in the Second Amendment, it refers to firearms in the context of a well regulated militia, and well regulated is what we're trying to accomplish.

Two days after the terrorist attack, Giuliani wasn't assessing further Islamic terrorist threats or preparing the city against terrorist attack or publically denouncing Islamic terrorism. No, instead he was in a press conference at City Hall with a Democrat gun control nut (Rep. Carolyn McCarthy) by his side calling for national gun control.

This is the TRUTH that must be told about the February 1997 terrorist attack in New York City. This is how Giuliani deals with terrorist attacks. He blamed the guns, called for violating constitutional rights for EVERYONE, and wanted to take away our own individual defense against further terrorist attacks. More disturbing is that he would openly politicize a terrorist attack to advance a liberal agenda.

Even if Giuliani didn't have all of the other 100-ton social liberal and personal baggage he would carry as the GOP nominee for President, his reaction to this terrorist attack is more than enough reason for Republicans to seriously consider looking for a better candidate.

36 posted on 02/18/2007 10:55:34 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: DocH; Alberta's Child
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39 posted on 02/18/2007 10:58:55 AM PST by Spiff (Rudy Giuliani Quote (NY Post, 1996) "Most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine.")
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To: Spiff
One of the principal purposes of the Second Amendment was to empower the people to deal with an enemy from within.

The unorganized militia was the only force that took down a plane to end a terrorist threat on 9-11. The unorganized militia took down the DC Sniper. It is the unorganized militia that is most capable of suppressing illegal immigration and exposing domestic terror cells. Rudy wants to deball it.

44 posted on 02/18/2007 11:04:08 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: Spiff
RINO-rudy: even in the Second Amendment, it refers to firearms in the context of a well regulated militia, and well regulated is what we're trying to accomplish.

ONLY a jack-booted-thug (a northeastern-corridor "LAWR"-enforcement storm trooper or gun-grabbing lawyer/bureaucrat) would think that the word "regulated", as it was written in the 2nd Amendment (and other papers/arguments of the time) means that the GOVERNMENT should create laws, issue edicts, or produce mandates to CONTROL how we practice our 2nd Amendment RIGHTS.

In the context of the times, the ORIGINAL meaning of our Founding Fathers, where the 2nd Amendment is concerned, is, in short (from guncite.com):

"to put in good order" is the correct interpretation of well regulated, signifying a well disciplined, trained, and functioning militia.

The "militia" of course, is NOT only the National Guard, as the anti-gun, anti-2A liberals want us to believe, but essentially, all law-abiding, INDIVIDUAL American citizens.

I can see a President rudy (I just threw up in my throat a bit) after a rare, but terrible tragedy involving the misuse of a firearm, using his executive powers and his Treasury Secretary (in much the way clinton did), to make entire CLASSES of firearms illegal, except for those willing to pay big bucks and jump through government hoops under the NFA (National Firearms Act).

Additionally, I can see RINO-rudy using any and all methods, beyond the tactics clinton used, to further erode our 2A rights. It's in his blood.

I don't trust him with our 2nd Amendment rights, and for that reason, and MANY others, he should NOT be allowed to be elevated to the highest office in the land.

If you think about it, RINO-rudy has vigorously pushed more gun-control on MANY occasions.

Even hillary hasn't done that!

52 posted on 02/18/2007 11:23:16 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Spiff
Thanks Spiff for your comprehensive post on RINO-rudy's GUN-GRABBING response to what was, essentially, an islamic radical TERROR attack.

I didn't have the docs to prove what my memory of this event was, but now it's out there for all to see.

Keep up the good fight against this, and all other liberal RINOs that are trying to HIJACK the Republican party.

55 posted on 02/18/2007 11:27:35 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Spiff

Outstanding post, Spiff.


135 posted on 02/19/2007 8:31:29 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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