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To: Alberta's Child; SJackson

The guy was a Muslim alien. Is that who you want to give guns to? That was Giuliani's comment - that Ali Abu Kamal had circumvented a 90 day in country residency requirement.


27 posted on 02/18/2007 10:15:22 AM PST by dervish (In the business world, two weeks spent on a nonbinding resolution would be considered nonproductive.)
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To: dervish
The guy was a Muslim alien. Is that who you want to give guns to? That was Giuliani's comment - that Ali Abu Kamal had circumvented a 90 day in country residency requirement.

OBVIOUSLY, we don't want illegal aliens of ANY sort to obtain firearms, BUT...

it is naive to think that a determined individual can NOT get most any firearm he wants anyway, AND, the answer for gun-grabbing RINO-rudy, if gun-grabbing wasn't a part of the fiber-of-his-being, was that he SHOULD have railed against the federal government (rudy's buddy, bill clinton's soft-on-terror, tough on innocent law-abiding gun owners, government)not cracking down on these type of foreign intruders that do not respect or follow our laws.

But no, gun-grabbing RINO-rudy used it as yet ANOTHER reason to push more Draconian gun-control.

He would do the SAME EXACT THING if, GOD FORBID, he were to become president.

34 posted on 02/18/2007 10:54:37 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: dervish
Read the article I posted a link to. Giuliani used this incident as excuse to promote gun control.

He knowingly used an attack by a Muslim terrorist to try to restrict the rights of American citizens.

38 posted on 02/18/2007 10:58:40 AM PST by garv (Conservatism in '08 www.draftnewt.org)
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To: dervish

"Is that who you want to give guns to?"

Doesn't matter. These people WILL get their weapons one way or another. Politicians like Rudy just get off on disarming the rest of us. They can't help but KNOW the truth, yet they utterly and callously disregard the truth in their zeal to have a disarmed and compliant nation of sheeples. That is why I will NEVER vote for a McGiuliRomney.


47 posted on 02/18/2007 11:06:35 AM PST by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dervish; garv
The guy was a Muslim alien. Is that who you want to give guns to? That was Giuliani's comment - that Ali Abu Kamal had circumvented a 90 day in country residency requirement.

Thanks for the poing garv.

Dervish, thanks for demonstrating the pro-Rudy people are as loopy as the anti-Rudy people.

No, I don't want to give firearms to Muslim aliens, or any other kind of alien.

I asked for information because it's my sense that shoud Mayor G truely become the Mayor of America, he'd use incidents like the Utah shooting to increase firearm regulation.

I've excerpted a bit from garv's link below, and I'm open to reading more.

Mayor of NYC Rudy says nothing about Muslim aliens, or aliens at all.

He contends that it wasn't a security issue, NYC apparently never having heard of metal detectors, rather Florida's fault. And he calls for stricter regulation. Without mention of aliens. I mention that again because I don't care if aliens are barred from purchasing firearms, let them become citizens and then the 2nd amendment will protect them.

From the little bit I've read, as someone who splits his time between Illinois and Wisconsin, I think Mayor of America Rudy would do the same thing as Mayor of Chicago Daley in the wake of the Utah incident. Use it to increase regulation.

73 posted on 02/18/2007 12:41:11 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: dervish; garv
The guy was a Muslim alien. Is that who you want to give guns to? That was Giuliani's comment - that Ali Abu Kamal had circumvented a 90 day in country residency requirement.

Thanks for the poing garv.

Dervish, thanks for demonstrating the pro-Rudy people are as loopy as the anti-Rudy people.

No, I don't want to give firearms to Muslim aliens, or any other kind of alien.

I asked for information because it's my sense that shoud Mayor G truely become the Mayor of America, he'd use incidents like the Utah shooting to increase firearm regulation.

I've excerpted a bit from garv's link below, and I'm open to reading more.

Mayor of NYC Rudy says nothing about Muslim aliens, or aliens at all.

He contends that it wasn't a security issue, NYC apparently never having heard of metal detectors, rather Florida's fault. And he calls for stricter regulation. Without mention of aliens. I mention that again because I don't care if aliens are barred from purchasing firearms, let them become citizens and then the 2nd amendment will protect them.

From the little bit I've read, as someone who splits his time between Illinois and Wisconsin, I think Mayor of America Rudy would do the same thing as Mayor of Chicago Daley in the wake of the Utah incident. Use it to increase regulation.

With Mrs. McCarthy at his side, the Mayor said the gunfire was not the fault of poor security at the landmark tower, or anything related to New York. Rather it could be blamed on a far-reaching national issue well beyond his jurisdiction.

The subject was no longer the possible damage to New York's image, but rather the difference between the rest of the country and New York, a city with strict gun laws that the Mayor said were partly responsible for the drop in crime here. The news conference also reminded voters of Mr. Giuliani's longstanding support for strong gun control legislation.

''The whole idea of the press conference was to bring this tragedy onto the national level,'' said Mrs. McCarthy, whose husband was killed in a 1993 shooting incident on the Long Island Rail Road. ''We can't stop the guns from coming into New York if we don't do it around the country, and that's what the Mayor and I have been saying for years.''

Colleen A. Roche, the Mayor's press secretary, said the Mayor had learned late Sunday night that the gun used in the shootings had been purchased legally in Florida, and had brought up the issue at the morning meeting.

''The Mayor was concerned about gun control issues, and determined that this was a case that cried out for stricter gun control,'' she said. ''After discussions this morning at the meeting, he had the staff reach out to Congresswoman McCarthy, and to other gun control advocates. A few calls were made, and advocates pretty much organized themselves to come. They have an extraordinary communications network.''


74 posted on 02/18/2007 12:41:29 PM PST by SJackson (A vote is like a rifle, its usefulness depends upon the character of the user, T. Roosevelt)
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To: dervish
The guy was a Muslim alien. Is that who you want to give guns to? That was Giuliani's comment - that Ali Abu Kamal had circumvented a 90 day in country residency requirement.

Which makes Giuliani even a bigger hypocrite. If the New York City police had arrested this guy one day earlier for jumping a subway turnstile and it turned out that he was in this country illegally, they would have been prohibited from turning him over to the INS under New York City's "sanctuary city" policy.

134 posted on 02/19/2007 8:30:02 AM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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