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To: Pukin Dog; kabar
Aren't you making my point?

My point is that when a small group of people who work together move and speak with a unified voice they can meet their goals. And I was giving examples of people doing things with no more than the power of their voices. When you have the president, his administration and people his administration controls along with a Republican congress you should be able to do damn near anything.

The president and the Republicans did not use their power as they should have. When they did use their power they used it to spend money like crazy and pass stupid things like McCain-Feingold with which the president added even more foolishness by signing. During this time the president didn't even veto anything that was spend happy.

This isn't my fault or anyone elses here.

I've been involved in local politics where there was a sea change. The conservatives took over local government that had been run by moonbeam leftist snots for decades. Once power was in hand that power was used and is being used. Tax rebates, better and more sensible handling of money, no more handing out taxpayer money on silly things, etc. The eye is on the people that pay the taxes. The instant these newly elected folks forget that we will hammer them. THAT'S what those of us did wrong when Bush and the Republicans were spending money like drunken sailors.

The Republicans still have not learned anything. When the Democrats stated this non-binding resolution the Republicans should ALL have been saying "we are spending "X" millions of taxpayers money on this" and in the next breath they should have been talking about the 100% outlawing of earmarks. Say the same thing over and over.

Free drugs, billions to Africans, more health insurance crap, etc, etc. The Republicans are fools because you can't tell them from the Democrats anymore.

731 posted on 02/18/2007 12:52:04 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Have you seen Rick Perry's brain? Neither has he!)
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To: isthisnickcool
You are making me miss the race.....

The Republicans are fools because you can't tell them from the Democrats anymore.

Wrong. Democrats dont attack Democrats.

733 posted on 02/18/2007 12:55:44 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: isthisnickcool
Free drugs, billions to Africans, more health insurance crap, etc, etc. The Republicans are fools because you can't tell them from the Democrats anymore

Are you really this ignorant? Do you real bother to even think what you are saying or do you just mindlessly regulate whatever nonsense Democrat Campaign Contributor Mike Savage screams at you?

If you are really this ignorant of all political reality there is utterly NO hope for you at all. Give you just ONE accomplishment out of the thousands that totally NUKES your nonsense whining about Bush.

Chief Justice John Roberts and Associate Justice Sam Alito.

IF you do not know the significance of those two names you are so ignorant it is amazing you can turn on a computer!

Sorry you hate Bush. Get over it. What the matter, did he not stop and shake your hand at some fund raiser? Your emotion based rage at the man is pathetic and childish. Your ignorance of even basic political facts inexcusable.

763 posted on 02/18/2007 1:48:34 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: isthisnickcool
The Republicans are fools because you can't tell them from the Democrats anymore.

While there has been a lot about the previous Congress and the Repubs 12 year control of it I do not like, that statement is what I most disagree with from your "side", if you will.

Your side said they didn't vote last year because the Republicans were getting too liberal. I was assured that letting the Republicans lose last year would bring out the TRUE conservative Republican Congress and President of 2008. Your side said there wasn't "one thin dime's worth of difference" between the two parties. They claimed the lesser of two evils was STILL evil! Many on your side even claimed that the dems couldn't do any more harm than the past 12 years of Republican rule.

Like Pukin Dog said, I too argued with these folks that a dem controlled Congress would devastate the country and be totally opposed to ANYTHING conservative. Well now they've had their cute little vote, our GIs more then anyone else will suffer for it, and Pelosi/Murtha aren't through yet, but are plotting even more harm.

Despite the RINOs, there are still huge differences between the parties. The Republicans might not be as conservative as you'd like, but they are not socialist radicals bent on America's destruction. The moveon.org dems are fueled by their hatred of us and white guilt at our noble achievements as a nation and people. They stand opposed to everything we find good. Social/Religious conservatives are the target of today dems. Putting them in power to spite some RINO makes no sense from a survival standpoint.

I was hoping that we conservatives can come to some sort of consensus before 2008. I'm not sure we can do it. While I'm not ready to decide on a presidential candidate to rally 'round, I've heard that a nominated Rudy will tear us further apart. This is indeed where our party is headed, I'm afraid. Additionally, 21 Republican senators are up for reelection next year, versus 12 dems. Without every single available vote, we'll fall further in the Senate.

2008 is looking a lot worse.

780 posted on 02/18/2007 2:25:32 PM PST by Alas Babylon!
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