Posted on 02/17/2007 6:23:04 AM PST by NYer
BINGO!
Seems that way to me too. But evidently there was an undercurrent of distaste for everything the reigning GOP stood for, including social conservatism. I can't otherwise explain the contempt so many people ON THE RIGHT are now expressing for those of us who oppose abortion and the gay agenda.
This is true. It is also true about the CA 2006 elections. But psst! Don't tell anyone. 'kay?
I always thought math, history, and the wisdom of successful people were pretty important. I guess a 2000 year old book with a completely warped meaning is just as good, huh?
I'm sorry, I'm just looking for the part of the Bible where Jesus starts a war on drugs and loathes, criminilizes, and condemns "sinners" to social alienation. All I find is that all his friends were prostitutes and tax collectors - the ancient day equivalent of the immigrants and homosexuals that modern Christians like to pick on. If the people claiming Christianity acted like Jesus did, religion would be a fine way to rule.
And if socialism worked like the dictators always claim it will, that would be a fine way to rule as well.
Things just aren't that idealistic.
"...and a more moderate Islam is growing;..."
Some people should just be slapped because they are so stupid. Mr. Wallis also mentions the glowing success of South Africa. *as anyone can plainly see*
Thanks for posting the link. Excellent article!
Obviously he hasn't read the Book at all.
Jim Wallis is part of the "Religious Left", an oxymoron if ever there was one.
I dont think its distaste for the social conservatism at all. Infact I think quite the opposite.
Here Folks simply stayed home and I think it happened all over. I think itll happen again in 08 if we continue to run as dem lite.
I dont even begin to understand why so many on FR these days have a distaste for the social conservatives?
Of course, in a perfect world we could all be compassionate and accepting like Jesus,
Jesus was only cpmpassionate and accepting toward those who would go and sin no more.
It's not just the fringe of evangelicalism like the Sojourners or Tony Campolo (a Northern Baptist "spiritual adviser" to Slick Willie). Leaders like Rick Warren, who reputedly has become a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the establishment's "good ol' boys" club, have endorsed environmentalism and weakened doctrine in favor of "seeker sensitivity" or some such nonsense. Billy Graham, who should know better, excused Clinton's sexual misdeeds with something like "boys will be boys."
Make no mistake. Evangelical and fundamentalist Christians are the population group those people who would turn our nation into, at best, a socialist, Western European nation or, at worst, a corrupt Third World narco-oligarchy, need to neutralize and suppress. Even here on FR, the mere mention of Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Tim LaHaye, James Dobson, and others bring out the RINO and evolutionist haters who seem to despise these Christians more than liberals. Beware of the enemy within.
Put a clean kid in a room with a dirty kid and let them play ...
The dirt always gets on the clean kid ... the clean never gets on the dirty kid.
The "praise" as you call it has nothing to do with disgust for social conservatism, nor does it reflect hate for the RR. The support Mr. Giuliani receives here on FR (from a minority I might add) reflects an understanding that those social values the RR here decries most, abortion and gay rights, have little or nothing to do with the presidency. Those issues will ultimately be resolved in the court system.
The issues he would have the greatest influence on as president include national security, budget and deficit control, tax policy and a strong attorney general who will fight real crime in this Nation. Those are all conservative issues, and in those, he has a proven track record.
What is upsetting to most here on FR is that he would be willing to sit down with the other side to work out compromises on those major issues of importance to Americans, such as social security, immigration reform, education and energy independence, all issues that the recent Republican dominated congress failed to follow through on.
So while abortion, stem cell research, creationism, prayer in school, and stopping states from adopting gay rights are the most important issues to the religious right, they have little to do with what America wants in its next president. And that is why, at least now, Mr. Jiuliani is the only Republican who can defeat Hillary.
And he used legal manipulation to prevent sin?
I call BS
Religious leadership is the world's oldest path to political power. Period. Socialism is just a modern-day secular mimicry of religion with new sins and villains.
One is not better than the other.
"Do not pray in the market like the hypocrits do."
Gramsci strikes again! BUT it's just a Flesh wound--False Prophecy and projection.
"As evil did increase, so much more does GRACE increase."
God is yet sovereign, righteousness is yet right and evil will be in God's time be forever overpowered. Psalm 1, 2 and 3. www.Biblegateway.com
If these people weren't DESPERATELY fearful of God's power, why would they be obsessive-compulsive to the point of establishing ACLU/PFAW organizations to purge and censor the Bible and prayer? Pathetic. Pathological. Those who stand on truth have already won the spiritual victory--after that, the physical territory victory is a matter of time. It is a battle for the MIND and SOUL.
Ha! The joke is on all of the anti-religious people. They're going to go from disliking the followers of Christ, to hating them and shunning them, to outright persecuting them and worse. But I've read the end of the book and I know who wins. Hint: it's not the anti-Christ.
Better headline -
"Communists Infiltrate Churches"
subhead -
"Search on for useful idiots"
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