The Religious Right's Era Is Over

Time ^ | February 16, 2007 | Jim Wallis

[Cedric]

Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.

[MACVSOG68]

Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other.

Then why is the religious right so afraid of the 14th Amendment? Why do they fear letting states exercise their powers under the 10th Amendment? A moral and just people do not require religion to guide them. Nor does our Constitution dependent on the RR to define its greatness. God is mentioned in it nowhere, but the people are.

[Elsie]

Though religion has had a negative image in the last few decades, the years ahead may be shaped by a dynamic and more progressive faith that will make needed social change more possible.

So true...

But what do you think about Jesus??

[Elsie]

Luke 18
1. Then Jesus told his disciples a parable to show them that they should always pray and not give up.
2. He said: "In a certain town there was a judge who neither feared God nor cared about men.
3. And there was a widow in that town who kept coming to him with the plea, `Grant me justice against my adversary.'
4. "For some time he refused. But finally he said to himself, `Even though I don't fear God or care about men,
5. yet because this widow keeps bothering me, I will see that she gets justice, so that she won't eventually wear me out with her coming!'"
6. And the Lord said, "Listen to what the unjust judge says.
7. And will not God bring about justice for his chosen ones, who cry out to him day and night? Will he keep putting them off?
8. I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

[Cedric]

"moral and religious".

[Elsie]

Well I read yesterday that many store shelves in that same Caracas are bare of essential items of food.

Why??

They're sitting on an ocean of oil!

[Elsie]

A moral and just people do not require religion to guide them.

Then from WHERE do they get their 'morals' and their 'justness'?

[MACVSOG68]

"moral and religious".

A statement that explains better than the author why America is rejecting fundamentalist thought as a basis for political decisions.

[Elsie]

But when religious fundamentalists want to decide who my Party's candidate will be based on their litmus tests, I draw the line.

Be glad they ARE yanking so hard on the reins, for without them the 'conservatives' would be indistinguishable from the 'liberals'!

[TexanToTheCore]

"Jim Wallis is part of the "Religious Left", an oxymoron if ever there was one."

There was a religious left but it goes way back to the twenties and thirties and was referred to as "The Social Gospelers" (Redemption Through Social Action). It began to disappear rapidly in the 50s and is now fairly rare, despite what Wallis claims.

It is very unlikely that any significant number of Evangelicals will go to the left. The support for abortion is a very big problem that the left cannot decide in their favor. Gun control is another as Evangelicals tend to be 2nd amendment types.

Do I think some pastors will attempt move their churches to the left? Yes. Will they prosper? No. They will lose their congregations, just as the Protestant left has over the last 30 or so years. And the congregations will move to the scriptural churches as is continuing to happen as I write.

This is old, bad wine (Thunderbird) in new bottles and it will be unpalatable.

[Elsie]

"We have now entered the post-Religious Right era."

So hopes Religious Left!

[Cedric]

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports.

[Elsie]

Billy Graham, who should know better, excused Clinton's sexual misdeeds with something like "boys will be boys."

Excuse me, but do you have a reference for this statement?

[Cedric]

"Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other."

John Adams
Second President Of
The United States


Gee, I just realized I'd forgotten the quotation marks and attribution!

[Cedric]

"Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports."

George Washington
A surveyor who looked
really cool on his
white horse



Please, MACVSOG68, keep flailing. It's hilarious.

[Forgiven_Sinner]

"Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other."

"Then why is the religious right so afraid of the 14th Amendment? Why do they fear letting states exercise their powers under the 10th Amendment?"

I'm not aware of these amendments being issues to Christians.

" A moral and just people do not require religion to guide them. Nor does our Constitution dependent on the RR to define its greatness. God is mentioned in it nowhere, but the people are."

The assumption of the Constitution is that NO ONE is moral or trustworthy--hence the separation of powers and even the people are represented, not directly voting for every law.

The assumption of the Constitution is the nation's people are Christians, although the freedom of others is tolerated. The assumption of equality of all people comes directly from Christianity. Check out Galatians, where Paul says in Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

"Religious right" is a rather vague term; I prefer to use Christian because our various denominations oppose abortion and homosexuality from a religious doctrinal view point. I have no problem with the states handling these issues--that's what the Constitution says anyway. It's the Supreme court that took that away in Roe v. Wade, and the Massachusetts court that found the right to homosexual marriage in their 200 year old constitution.

[SaintDismas]

Don't worry, the world will go on without me, nobody listens to a damn thing I have to say anyway

[Gene Eric]

>> The Religious Right's Era Is Over

Wishful thinking. What the Left continues to ignore or not understand is that integrity of Faith is not the product of a headline in a periodical or a fleeting sense of Spirituality.

The good news is, that through their desire to artificially capitalize on Faith and Spirituality, the Left is normalizing the practices of the "Religious Right" albeit in divisive form. After a period of adjustment, subscribers to pop culture will walk away and a portion of those with true Faith will remain only to build upon the foundation sustained by the "Religious Right".

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Notice the sublimity of the steeple against the background of the American Flag at the publisher's web site. Given the article is joke, the publisher feels it necessary to inflect some momentum using good ol' American symbolism.

[Kevmo]

Back to God. We have put our trust to much in Princes, and not in Christ. And, I fear, we will soon be going into the catacombs.
***Well said. But my fear is that this time around there will be no real good catacombs to hide in. The beast will be "given power to wage war against the saints."

rev 13:10 If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity he will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword he will be killed. This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints. .... all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.

[Matchett-PI]

There are criminal mentalities and traitors in both the DemocRAT and Republican Parties, but only DemocRATS (professing "Christians" included) will knowingly and deliberately vote to put such dregs of society into power.