Posted on 02/16/2007 5:33:36 AM PST by RedRover
Well, all that concern evaporated when Petty Officer Melson Bacos took a plea deal.
But what did anyone expect at least one of the eight caged and shackled serviceman would do? Wasn't it clear that there was a POINT to the chains and the slow torture of caged for weeks on end?
Bacos agreed to follow the prosecution's script. In exchange, he received 10 months in the brig and a general discharge. He'll have to live with it.
In the Hamdania case thus far: exculpatory evidence has been destroyed, investigators have falsified statements, the accused have been abused and coerced into plea deals.
Personally, I don't know whether Bascos is telling the truth or not, or whether Pennington is innocent or not. But it's clear that our Marines are facing show trials where confessions and deals are their only way out.
And that ought to be a bigger scandal than handcuffs and leg irons.
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It's not like Bacos made the poor man put panties on his head.
But it's clear that our Marines are facing show trials.
Marines,Border Guards, everybody but terrorists and drug dealers.We have met the enemy, and they are the bureaucrats in charge of our government !!!
Bacony bacos makes every bite better.
Sounds like some of these troops were scumbags. Just because someone fights for our country doesn't mean that they can't be a psychopath. There are likely serial killers in the military just like there are in society at large. They should all be treated the same.
Even if the testimony is true, I see no crime.
We train them to kill.
We send them to war.
They experience war where any civilian at anytime could be the enemy.
We expect them to act like Mr Rogers? BS!
War is war.
Oh, for heaven's sake! These statements are getting ridiculous. What's next?
That is obviously a true statement.
American soldiers, while defending the country, are not infallible superheroes. They are about the same as any other human creature. There are some 130,000 troops in Iraq. Based on the American population in general (as if 130,000 random Americans were gathered up and their behavior observed), at least a few would probably be jerks.
"Just because someone fights for our country doesn't mean that they can't be a psychopath."
True, but there are good psychopaths and bad ones.
"There are likely serial killers in the military just like there are in society at large."
Since the military is representative of the population at larged that could also be true. However the military is certainly above average in many many areas. The behavior of a serial killer would be hard to miss. Your attempts to paint the military with a broad negative brush are interesting though.
"They should all be treated the same."
Yeah, Al Queda and the Marines, they are the same, sure... anything else negative you want to say about the troops?
Ideally, it would be good if every single troop (and every single American) was polite 24/7. Obviously in this world, that is probably not going to happen--especially in a war situation. Kidnapping and murder are not the same as disrespect. This slapping a corpse with his hand is just the dressing on top of a great, rotting thing (if that makes any sense).
"War is war."
No war is a surgical instrument where only the non-PC ugly people are killed and only when its politically expedient for the liberals.
not sure if I'm being sarcastic or realistic.
"When some troops do something such as murder (at least hypothetically), they should be called on it. "
I don't believe the military should be used for a police force. The military should be used to kill and destroy. Expecting people to kill and destroy one minute and then be a cop the next minute will only result in problems.
The ways the guys were treated defies the laws you are trying to hold them to. They were forced to plead guilty.
His comment did not seem to use a "broad brush" (opinion). He used some to qualify his statement.
Just exactly why was he hitting himself?
The freepers here are wanting these Marines and the Haditha Marines to get a fair trial.
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