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Rudy Giuliani Supports Partial Birth Abortion...Evangelical Christians Don't.

[GEORGE] WILL: Is your support of partial birth abortion firm?
Mayor GIULIANI: All of my positions are firm. I have strong viewpoints. I express them. And I--I do not think that it makes sense to be changing your position....
ABC News February 6, 2000


TUCHMAN: Giuliani was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions, something Bush strongly supports.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
- CNN December 2, 1999


BLITZER: If you were in the Senate and [President Clinton] vetoed, once again, the [ban on the] so-called partial-birth abortion procedure, you would vote against sustaining that against the -- in favor of the veto in other words, you would support the president on that.
GIULIANI: Yes. I said then that I support him, so I have no reason to change my mind about it.
BLITZER: All right. So the bottom line is that on a lot of these very sensitive issues whether on guns, abortion, patients' bill of rights, taxes, you are more in line with the president and by association, with Mrs. Clinton, than you are against them.
- CNN February 6, 2000

MR. RUSSERT: A banning of late-term abortions, so-called partial-birth abortions--you're against that?

MAYOR GIULIANI: I'm against it in New York, because in New York...

MR. RUSSERT: Well, if you were a senator, would you vote with the president or against the president? [Note: President Clinton was in office in 2000]

MAYOR GIULIANI: I would vote to preserve the option for women. I think that choice is a very difficult one. It's a very, very--it's one in which people of conscious have very, very different opinions. I think the better thing for America to do is to leave that choice to the woman, because it affects her probably more than anyone else....

MR. RUSSERT: So you won't change your view on late-term abortion in order to get the Conservative Party endorsement?

MAYOR GIULIANI: It isn't just that. We shouldn't limit this to one issue. I'm generally not going to change my views
- NBC Meet the Press, February 6, 2000


***Note: the version of the Partial Birth Abortion Ban that Giuliani opposed in 2000, that he said he supported Bill Clinton in vetoing the Republican-controlled Congress's legislation, contained the exception for the life of the mother that Rudy is now trying to pretend is a prerequisite for his support of it.


1 posted on 02/16/2007 4:56:06 AM PST by Spiff
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To: Spiff

Well I guess Richard Land is going to sit out the next election.

YAWN.


143 posted on 02/16/2007 6:51:18 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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Worrying about the voters that believe in this garbage

should not be a priority of any candidate.
169 posted on 02/16/2007 7:03:44 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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The real dumb thing about these one issue voters is that they infact vote in the extreme Democrat candidate by ruining the Republican's chances. Thereby, fulfilling their own prophesy. Dumb SOBs! All of them.
175 posted on 02/16/2007 7:04:56 AM PST by USMMA_83 (Tantra is my fetish ;))
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This evangelical Christian won't vote for any Presidential candidate that supports killing babies in the womb!!! PERIOD!!


184 posted on 02/16/2007 7:11:12 AM PST by pollywog (Joshua 1:9 Have not I commanded thee? Be strong and of a good courage; be not afraid,)
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I will stick to my orginal prediction that the GOP will not be handed power again for many years hence. There is about as much difference between the New York City mayor and the New York State Senator as there is between Ford and GM.


189 posted on 02/16/2007 7:11:41 AM PST by Muleteam1 (Gone back to fishing.)
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Of Romney’s Mormon religion, Land said it’s not a “deal-killer.”

There's an evangelical pastor in a local suburban Kansas City church named Jerry Johnson that's been ranting against Mormonism for a couple of weeks now on his Sunday show and at his services, call it a false religion and not Christianity. If Romney becomes a serious candidate I wonder how many other evangelicals will follow his lead?

202 posted on 02/16/2007 7:17:29 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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“If he wins, he’ll do so without social conservatives,” Land said.

True enough in my case.
212 posted on 02/16/2007 7:20:22 AM PST by Antoninus ("For some, the conservative constituency is an inconvenience. For me, it's my hope" -Duncan Hunter)
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This idiot's comments about Mike Huckabee show that he doesn't fully grasp "conservatism." Huckabee has become one of these Jesus-hippie types who thinks Jesus mandated socialism and thinks he is carrying out God's will by promoting a nanny-state environment. Yes, Huckabee is pro-life but that is NOT enough to be a "conservative."


260 posted on 02/16/2007 7:38:32 AM PST by RebekahT ("Government is not the solution to the problem, our government is the problem." -- Ronald Reagan)
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Rudy's campaign should be aborted.


280 posted on 02/16/2007 7:49:07 AM PST by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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If Giuliani gets the republican nomination, and Jim Gilchrist does indeed get the constitution party nomination as the media says is likely, it will be VERY hard to vote for Giuliani over Gilchrist considering I live in a safe state.

The Hillary Clinton scare tactic is weak, it's what has always been used. "Don't vote for Buchanan, only Dole can win." "I dislike Bush, but we need to stop Al Gore." "Bush sucks on fiscal issues and immigration, but we can't let John Kerry get in." Eventually a line has to be drawn where people get tired of voting for candidates they don't like because of the hype during the election that makes that candidate the worst democrat candidate ever.....until the next general election. Again, I live in a safe state, so please Rudybots spare me your "helping Hillary" crap.

Giuliani needs to be thrown out in the primary. I'm not picky, I'll support any republican who is not Giuliani or Hagel.


287 posted on 02/16/2007 7:51:20 AM PST by NapkinUser (Free Ramos and Compean! Disbarment for the Nifong-wannabe Johnny Sutton.)
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Rudy has a great chance to be the Republican nominee regardless of what this "leader" has to say.


296 posted on 02/16/2007 7:58:37 AM PST by ajolympian2004
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Land needs to read Romney's comments more closely. He is a parser. Voter beware. You had better judge him by his previous actions rather than on his manipulative words. Actions should speak louder than words when you are talking about politicians, especially those seeking the top job in the country.


368 posted on 02/16/2007 9:10:43 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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It is absolutely amazing that Christian radio talk shot hosts like Sean Hannity and Michael Reagan say they would vote for a man like Giuliani, someone rabidly in favor abortion, the homosexality and who is notorious adultery.

Then, lil' ol' Sean wonders why RINOs are destroying conservatvism within the Republican party -- because you supported their election to office, Sean.

409 posted on 02/16/2007 10:26:46 AM PST by Ol' Sparky
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Evangelical leader sizes up GOP field, says Giuliani’s campaign is doomed.

All of you RINOS better pay attention. Evangelical Christians cost the GOP the Senate and the House in the last election and if you think Rudy is going to win, you better think again!! The ONLY way the GOP can possibly expect them to turn out and vote for a Republican is if he is a Conservative. Like it or not, THAT is reality! IF you don't, then YOU will have handed the election to Hillary, and NOT conservative Christians because YOU have been warned by them. They could care less whether you like it or not. They simply will NOT vote for another RINO

412 posted on 02/16/2007 10:37:45 AM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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Land and his ilk think that they have way more influence than they in fact have. I am not impressed with his threats.


418 posted on 02/16/2007 10:59:04 AM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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So, Rudy supported partial birth abortions in the past and Hitlery supports it now. I guess that means that as a right wing conservative you must vote for Hitlery, since she is the lessor of two evils. You're weird.
432 posted on 02/16/2007 11:22:51 AM PST by finnigan2
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“It’s got to surface at some point,” Land said. “There are too many social conservatives talking about it, and it applies to [Newt] Gingrich, too.”

Well at least he's being intellectually consistent.
452 posted on 02/16/2007 11:35:57 AM PST by soccermom
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Giuliani’s campaign is doomed

With our help. :o)

461 posted on 02/16/2007 11:46:27 AM PST by Giant Conservative
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And which candidate would he support? One that actually has a chance to get the nomination? Newt? McCain?

These are all human beings with human failings. The one weakness we cannot tolerate is weakness towards those who would compromise our National Security. That means the Dems and Hillary.

If Rudy is the best candidate who can keep Her Heinous, Queen Hillary from claiming her throne, so be it.




FIGHT EVIL WHERE YOU FIND IT


517 posted on 02/16/2007 2:02:11 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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