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Foxnews Poll: Giuliani Leads McCain 56% - 31%
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/021507_release_web.pdf ^

Posted on 02/15/2007 3:20:42 PM PST by MittFan08

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To: The Shrew
I must vehemently disagree with one point.
We dress way better.

Take care & goodnight.

301 posted on 02/16/2007 12:04:52 AM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: Rex Anderson
"Do you believe a Hillary or Obama Presidency will execute the war as capably as Giuliani?"

I believe that if we select the right man as our nominee, we will have full Republican and conservative support, the dollars and enthusiastic grassroots support will flow in like never before, we win Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, California, Florida, the south, all red states and most purple states other than the solid blue northeast and Pacific northwest liberal enclaves, and we will all come out winners. Hillary loses. Terrorism loses. We sweep the contested vulnerable congressional seats. America wins while abortion and the culture of death loses.

302 posted on 02/16/2007 12:05:13 AM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Maybe when I wake up it will all be so.

Take care & goodnight.


303 posted on 02/16/2007 12:07:38 AM PST by Rex Anderson
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To: Rex Anderson
"Abortionists" and "abortionism" as I use the terms in this context are people and political belief systems respectively that promote the idea that abortion is a constitutional right. Abortionist liberals and feminists, leftists, even homosexualists militantly defend abortionism almost as a religion. Abortionists, feminists, homosexualists, gun grabbers, environmentalists, pacifists, socialists, anarchists, communists, etc., very often walk hand in hand in defending their collective isms and cults of death. These are the ghouls we see marching hand in hand in the peace marches. Liberals worship their isms like gods.

If you are not one of the above then I would presume you are not an abortionist.

Giuliani on the other hand defends abortionism (and a couple two or three other isms) as constitutional rights. He's been known to consort in public with some of the above cultists and probable peace marchers. How any conservative could possibly trust a guy like this as a potential presidential nominee is way beyond my understanding.

304 posted on 02/16/2007 12:30:28 AM PST by Jim Robinson ("Electable" gave us Gerald Ford and Bob Dole. Voting for the right-wing kook gave us Reagan. ~ A.C.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Half right is being generous. Rudy's batting around .200 on the issues that matter.


305 posted on 02/16/2007 5:30:43 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: potlatch; holdonnow; stevemalzberg1; Laura_Ingraham; PhilDragoo; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; ...


Election Funtime:

1948 Korea
1960 Viet Nam
1964 Viet Nam
1976 Iran
1992 WACO / WTC-1 / Blackhawk Down
1996 Bosnia / OBL
[2006] Pelosi/Murtha+Reid/Kennedy

Republicans won

The Silver Medal

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when researching

be sure you type in Google

not Giggle

or Gaggle

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Question:

Who was 1983 Super Bowl "runner-up"?

Question:

Who can win New Jersey and Ohio and Florida in 2008?

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In 2008 the opponent is OBL

Go ahead and vote for Perot again

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Hillary will let you keep your firearms

Never raise your taxes

Forget about Universal HillaryScare

Let Slick Willie fight the WOT in the Lincoln bedroom

Protect the 1st Amendment in a lockbox

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Wishing never makes it so

Prayers are great but once Judas looked like a great guy too

"Sell your robe and buy a sword...."

Who can use a sword in 2008 and beyond?


306 posted on 02/16/2007 5:45:44 AM PST by devolve ( ........upload images free & fast at tinypic.com or Photobucket or Imagecave)
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To: Jim Robinson
Well, when I posted that I honestly thought most Freepers were conservatives. I had no idea that so many were for abortion rights, gay rights, gun control, etc. Actually, I still believe most Freepers are conservatives, we just seem to have a vocal minority of social liberals and or moderates who are willing to overlook Giuliani's liberal viewpoints and anti conservative unconstitutional actions.

At first I thought that all of the FReeper Rudyites were cheering for him because they believed that he is the only one who can win. But the more I see of some of these FReepers, the more I understand that they are pushing Rudy BECAUSE THEY BELIEVE EXACTLY AS HE DOES. Fortunately, there aren't many of them here, but there are a handful that spend so much time pimping for Rudy that some would start thinking that everyone here has thrown conservative principles to the wind just to vote for a leftist who happens to have an "R" after his name.

307 posted on 02/16/2007 5:51:37 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

They account for around 15% of everyone on this forum, members and non-members (according to the FR poll).

They move in a big clique, and they're very vocal, but 85% of this place is against them. Almost a mirror image of the Schiavo war. Not coincidentally, it's all the same players, too. And for the same reason.


308 posted on 02/16/2007 6:04:57 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: devolve

Bump!


309 posted on 02/16/2007 6:06:54 AM PST by onyx (DEFEAT Hillary Clinton, Marxist, student of Saul Alinsky & ally and beneficiary of Soros.)
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To: PhilDragoo; devolve; Fiddlstix; potlatch; y'all
Ever since Bush won the nomination in 2000 over McPain in Arse, McPain has been a real jerk.

I could never support him for the nomination.

And if he ever DID get the prize, I would DEFINITELY hafta hold my nose to vote for him.

But I am 110% certain that I will NEVER have to do that !!


310 posted on 02/16/2007 6:10:19 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: devolve

All those words, and not a single reason to vote for the man except the crippling fear of losing to Our Lady of Chappaqua.

In actuality, Romney doesn't alienate the base nearly as much as Rudy, can raise loads of cash, and stands a better chance of actually winning a general election than Rudy.

As far as winning New Jersey, we don't need it. And we certainly don't need a President beholden to the terminally clueless voters of John Corzine's Garden State.


311 posted on 02/16/2007 6:11:51 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
They account for around 15% of everyone on this forum, members and non-members (according to the FR poll).

And because they are a minority, these FReeper liberals think that they should have the final say on everything. It's pretty much the same as it would be if a bunch of illegal aliens signed up for FR and then complained that the site isn't bilingual.

312 posted on 02/16/2007 6:14:33 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Jim Robinson
>>>>Why settle for someone who gets it only half right?

Jim, Rudy doesn't even get it half right. He may have been fiscally conservative by NYCity standards and helped get businesses coming back to the Big Apple, that doesn't make Rudy a fiscal conservative.

313 posted on 02/16/2007 6:14:41 AM PST by Reagan Man (Conservatives don't vote for liberals.)
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To: Reagan Man
He may have been fiscally conservative by NYCity standards

Which puts him to the left of a lot of Democrats!

314 posted on 02/16/2007 6:16:24 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
They move in a big clique, and they're very vocal, but 85% of this place is against them. Almost a mirror image of the Schiavo war. Not coincidentally, it's all the same players, too. And for the same reason.

I was wondering if anybody else had noticed that. Actually, I have noticed a set of names that crop up whenever there's a libertarian argument to be made on a social issue: pornography, cohabitation, euthanasia, and so on. A good many of these people have apparently decided that Rudy is their "values" candidate. Trouble is, their values are all wrong.

315 posted on 02/16/2007 6:52:16 AM PST by madprof98 ("moritur et ridet" - salvianus)
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To: wagglebee

That's exactly what it is. They sign up on a pro-life, conservative website and begin trashing pro-life conservatives. And then they start pinging each other and spamming threads to make themselves look like a bigger force than they actually are. Kind of like a gang, Sunni Baathists in Iraq (pre-2003), or any other ruling minority.

This is the third major war we've had in as many years (Arnold was the first, Schiavo was the second). All involved similar issues, the same posters (mostly), using the same tactics to achieve the same end.

At this point, it's impossible to ignore what their desired end is: the liberalization of the GOP. Something a vast, 85% majority believes would be the death of the GOP.

One way or the other, something has to give.


316 posted on 02/16/2007 6:54:40 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard ("and alllll the children are insane")
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To: JoanneSD

Polling, like the Tides, never stops. I think, like, 75% of the american people are employed by polling companies.


317 posted on 02/16/2007 6:56:38 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: trumandogz

You mean they have gone into the cold.


318 posted on 02/16/2007 6:58:39 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: william clark

So from that data the Unknown Politician would win an overwhelming mandate. He could campaign with a bag over his head and run on a Pig in a Poke for his platform.


319 posted on 02/16/2007 7:00:59 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

Not at all. However, those who want to implement a more conservative policy clearly DO since they can't get anyone to follow them.


320 posted on 02/16/2007 7:02:22 AM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Defeat Hillary's V'assed Left Wing Conspiracy)
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