Giuliani’s Electoral Downside

National Review ^ | 2-15-07 | Ramesh Ponnuru

[azhenfud]

I wished I'd have pinged you to this; your thoughts?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1785311/posts?page=36#36

[P-40]

It does not matter much is Rudy's personal beliefs are pro or anti gun rights

If his knowledge of the Constitution leads him to believe that the Second Amendment pertains to hunting....why would I assume that he is qualified to spot a conservative judge in the first place?

[TitansAFC]

But we need to vote Hillary on judges, because she has stated she opposes "judicial activism."

And that's all that matters, right?

[dirtboy]

maybe - but there will always be two big differences: National Security and Socialism/Capitalism.

Rudy was so serious about National Security that he pushed a corrupt crony for the most important anti-terror job in the country.

He does NOT believe that the 2nd Amendment gives private citizens the right to defend themselves - he says it's about hunting - and he took guns away from long time NYC permit holders.

I really cannot see how this guy is the right choice to lead the WOT.

And he believes in global warming and supports CFR. He certainly does not believe in basic constitutional liberties - except for the "Constitutional right" to kill a fetus.

[madprof98]

Rudy's actions as mayor resulted in fewer abortions and fewer publicly-funded abortions.

This is the same claim that was made by the Pro-Lifers for Clinton.

[dirtboy]

Nice zinger.

[azhenfud]

VERY WELL PUT!

[dynachrome]

ping. Good article on Rudy from National Review.

[joeystoy]

The mayor doesn't appoint judges.

[dirtboy]

Giuliani's gambit is to assure us he will appoint strict constructionsts who will frustrate his social liberal tendencies and goals. "Elect me and I'll appoint judges who will protect you from me."

Damn, that's devastating.

[dirtboy]

The mayor doesn't appoint judges.

Yes, he did.

[NeoCaveman]

I would be more likely to believe that they wouldn't vote at all.

I tend to agree with you. I also tend to spot the Democrats 60 million votes like last election

With 5 to 10 million GOP votes staying home I don't see how Rudy can get where he wants to go from here.

[Hydroshock]

Well Put.

[hellbender]

Great post. Too bad the Rudycrats are not interested in facts like these. Their minds are made up on the basis of early polls generated by the MSM, and they want to stampede the rest of us into supporting a man who would be the most liberal Presidential candidate ever nominated by the GOP.

[NeoCaveman]

You make a good point. But remember that George Bush the elder stood for the 2nd amendment and was pro-life, and he gave us David Souter.

Bush 41 also gave us Clarence Thomas. So at least he batted .500

And while many doubt to this day Bush 41's genuine ideals vis a vis abortion and guns, he was very much an operationally pro-life president.

We got stuck with Souter due to the fraud of a very wicked RINO Senator named Warren Rudham who decieved GHWB.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

"Our second amendment rights will be safe unless we end up with another Warren court".

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Our second amendment rights are not safe enough with the president we have. I have not heard "W" rescind his pledge to sign the AWB,should he get the chance, have you?

[Condor51]

****The Rudy crowd thinks IL is winnable. ****

Are you kidding?? That's insane. No way Rudy could win IL. and not just because of Geo. Ryan.

• The Red Counties Dubya won will shun him for being the Lib he is.
  
• The 'Blue dog', gun loving, Dems in Mid to Southern IL will shun him for being an overt gun grabber. The stupid mutt is now calling for Federal Licensing of ALL gun owners in the US. The Dems won't even do that.
  
• Lastly we have C_rook County and Chicago. That well oiled machine will make sure there's enough votes to put IL in the Dem column. They'll be more votes from Chi than residents.

***Let them waste their money on IL***

And a waste would be. In '04 Dubya was smart enough to stay away from here. Even though KJ and Rove are best buds.

Bottom line, if Rudy is the GOP candidate, it's a Dem Electoral landslide.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

" But remember that George Bush the elder stood for the 2nd amendment".

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No, he didn't. He made a big show out of renouncing his NRA membership, when the NRA would not support his goals.

[Tokra]

Rudy was so serious about National Security that he pushed a corrupt crony for the most important anti-terror job in the country. He does NOT believe that the 2nd Amendment gives private citizens the right to defend themselves - he says it's about hunting - and he took guns away from long time NYC permit holders. I really cannot see how this guy is the right choice to lead the WOT. And he believes in global warming and supports CFR. He certainly does not believe in basic constitutional liberties - except for the "Constitutional right" to kill a fetus.

...and so Hillary would be better?

What you seem to forget is this is a two party system. It's one or the other. If it's not the Republican - than it IS the democrat.

Their simply isn't a third option.

[pgkdan]

Excellent post!