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Mexican Government Involved In Initiation Of Prosecution Of Agents Ramos And Compean
Fire Society ^ | February 14, 2007 | Steve Elliot

Posted on 02/14/2007 4:08:00 PM PST by yoe

FireSociety Exclusive: Interview with WND’s Jerome Corsi on Mexico’s Role (audio)

World Net Daily’s Jerome Corsi -- author of the best-seller “Unfit For Command” -- is reporting that the Mexican government was directly involved in the initation of the investigation against Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean which led to their arrest, conviction and imprisonment.

Corsi, quoting members of Congress and sourcing Hill staffers, reports that Department of Homeland Security investigators informed Congress that it was the Mexican Consulate that initiated the events by contacting the U.S. Consulate. WND article here.

Mexican Consulate requests action In an interview with Grassfire.org's Steve Elliott (see audio above, transcript below), Corsi explained that no action was taken for days following the incident at the border. In fact the agents' actions were considered “normal” and the reporting "acceptable” until Mexico intervened. Says Corsi, “Then on March 4 the request came through from the Mexican Consulate to the U.S. consulate in Mexico demanding an investigation on the basis that the Mexican Consulate was bringing forth Davila and wanted the agents to be punished."

Corsi also documents how the Mexican government was instrumental in the initiation of the case against Sherriff’s Deputy Gilmer Hernandez -- the other high-profile case the case against Sherriff’s Deputy Gilmer Hernandez -- the other high-profile case involving U.S. prosecution against our own personnel in favor of illegal aliens. (See FireSociety petition supporting Hernandez.)

Agents pawns in Open Border agenda Corsi told Grassfire that these agents are “victims of Mexico” and the Bush administration agenda for “political and economic integration with Mexico and Canada.” Grassfire’s Steve Elliott says any involvement by the Mexican government is unacceptable. “The timing of Mexico's involvement is not, to me, as critical as the fact that Mexico has such influence. It is outrageous that the Mexican government has any influence over the actions of our Justice Department, especially when the alleged victim is an illegal alien career drug smuggler. Mexico has no place in U.S. internal affairs.”

Below is a portion of Grassfire’s interview with Jerome Corsi.

Actions: 1. Fax the White House and other leaders demanding immediate pardon.

2. Sign the Petition to pardon agents Ramos and Compean (over 325,000 signers)
3. Call the White House (202-456-111) and your Congressman (202-224-3121).

Jerome Corsi Interview (audio player at top of page)

How was the Mexican government involved in the Ramos/Compean case? For several weeks [after the February 17, 2005 incident at the border] no investigation was ongoing. The Border considered the incident to be completely normal, the reporting to be acceptable and nothing was being done. Then on March 4 the request came through from the Mexican Consulate to the U.S. consulate in Mexico demanding an investigation on the basis that the Mexican Consulate was bringing forth [drug smuggler] Davila and wanted the agents to be punished….

On the Fourth of March we see an investigation began by the Department of Homeland Security in the Ramos and Compean case and a file opened by U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton. Nothing had been done until the request came forward from the Mexican Consulate and the dates coincide -- March 4, 2005 -- the request from the Mexican Consulate and the start of the case by DHS and the Department of Justice.

So the Mexican Consulate initiated this entire fiasco? That’s correct. That’s how I see it.

This is coming out of the 9/26/06 meeting of DHS with members of Congress, correct?

That is correct. I’ve gotten a hold of notes from staffers who attended that meeting…. Those notes fully document and are very clear that the contact came from the Mexican Consulate and it came through the U.S. Consulate in Mexico and that’s how the case has begun.

This is the same meeting in which DHS misled members of Congress, correct?

Now we’re finding out that our own government is lying to members of Congress and our Department of Homeland Security may be acting on orders fro the MC! It’s shocking to me that there was no investigation against Ramos and Compean and the incident was considered normal -- in fact they were being praised because they got 743 pounds of dope -- …until Mexico demanded that George W. Bush be an agent of the Mexican government and prosecute these Border Patrol agents to defend a fleeing Mexican national drug dealer.

Why would our government be wanting to even take any direction from the Mexican government? I believe the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America that President Bush agreed to on March 23, 2005, …[that] President Bush has decided to integrate us -- political and economic integration with Mexico and Canada -- he’s going to pursue that agenda whether he explains it to the American people fully or not.

These border agents have been caught up in this… They’re just victims to Mexico as Vicente Fox has been pushing a North American Union for years…. That I believe is the agenda, and it’s openly there in the public record.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; border; borderagents; buildit; campean; fence; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigrantping; mexico; ramos; wall
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To: dirtboy

read #18


21 posted on 02/14/2007 4:37:23 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: sgtbono2002; TomGuy; FreeAtlanta
FYI...


Did you see this from Neil Cavuto's Febuary 1st, 2007, show?


CAVUTO: Let me ask you, sir, about the ex-Border Patrol agents, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, both serving time in jail for shooting a runaway Mexican drug dealer.

Would you pardon them?

BUSH: You know, I get asked about pardons on a lot of different cases. And there's a procedure in place. And what I told members of Congress who have written me or called was to just look at the case, look at the facts in the case.

And people need to understand why these folks were sent to trial and why a jury of their peers convicted them. And that's, of course, what a president does on any pardon request.

CAVUTO: So, what are you saying?

BUSH: I'm saying, I would look at all the facts. And — but there is a process in any case for a president to make a pardon decision. In other words, there is a series of steps that are followed, so that the pardon process is, you know, a rational process.

CAVUTO: Well, they're in jail now. They're not going anywhere.

BUSH: Right. That's right.

CAVUTO: So...

BUSH: So...

(CROSSTALK)

CAVUTO: ... as things stand now, they will stay in jail.

BUSH: As things stand now, they will serve their sentence, right.

CAVUTO: Unless you interfere.

BUSH: Right. But what I'm trying to tell you is, is that it is — there is a series of steps that are analyzed in order for the Justice Department to make a recommendation as to whether or not a president grants a pardon.

CAVUTO: And we're not at that yet?

BUSH: No, we're not at that stage yet.

(END VIDEOTAPE)


He (Cavuto) also had an excellent fast interview with John Walsh of "America's Most Wanted", ripping the system for having Compean and Ramos in General Population, and that they should be out on bail! Will post when transcript is available.

60 posted on 02/14/2007 2:04:07 PM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)

22 posted on 02/14/2007 4:40:05 PM PST by Issaquahking (Pardon Compean and Ramos Now!)
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To: TomGuy; FreeAtlanta
You do not know that.

It could very easily have been a bait and switch.

Or she could have insisted she did not want to go through it all.
23 posted on 02/14/2007 4:44:05 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: Issaquahking

It seems clear that Bush is going to drag this thing out, knowing that Compean and Ramos are in danger, and time is of the essence. The globalist is making an example of these "peons."


24 posted on 02/14/2007 4:44:32 PM PST by hellbender
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To: msnimje
His fans and enemies all know he will not bow to pressure, from anybody.

Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

25 posted on 02/14/2007 4:46:53 PM PST by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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To: FreeAtlanta
I think they are looking into pardoning these men.

They obviously broke the law and screwed up.

Being they had federally mandated sentences it will not surprise me if they are pardoned in Jan of 2009.
26 posted on 02/14/2007 4:47:19 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: itsahoot
Rom 14:11 For it is written, [As] I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

For the love of Mike!

You think God is going to tell the President to pardon these guys?
27 posted on 02/14/2007 4:48:55 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: diogenes ghost
Do you really think our gov't would get involved if Mexican cops shot a US citizen smuggling drugs in Mexico?

And if they did is that proof of an evil American conspiracy?

28 posted on 02/14/2007 4:49:36 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
It appears, to me, the State Department is working more for other governments than American Citizens... just as Joel Mawbry (sp) said in the book he wrote about it.

That's old news.

29 posted on 02/14/2007 4:50:55 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists (and goldbugs) so bad at math?)
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To: msnimje
It could very easily have been a bait and switch.

That's the biggest crock. What person in their right mind would allow themselves to be put through that? And, if it were intended to be such a conspiracy, what if no one hollered -- and she got the seat?

No, that's the worst conspiracy theory conceivable.
30 posted on 02/14/2007 4:55:25 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: yoe

This does not come as a surprise.


31 posted on 02/14/2007 4:57:46 PM PST by freekitty
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To: freekitty

I also see another step to destruct America is happening.


32 posted on 02/14/2007 5:03:48 PM PST by freekitty
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To: yoe

President Bush has signed on to the North American federation and nothing any of us do will persuade him to take action on our border situation.
I am an American, not a one worlder.
I don't want Canada and Mexico and the United States to be one.
Even if it helps your large corporations labour rate.


33 posted on 02/14/2007 5:10:37 PM PST by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: calcowgirl

Thanks for the ping.
Lesson learned, don't do you're job then you won't get locked up /s


34 posted on 02/14/2007 5:31:05 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: calcowgirl

35 posted on 02/14/2007 6:27:23 PM PST by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
the Mexican government was directly involved in the initation <sic> of the investigation against Border Patrol Agents Ramos and Compean which led to their arrest, conviction and imprisonment

I hope the American government would be similarly involved if Mexican agents shot me in the back. It's not possible for me to take a position on the case with the facts available to me and I would tend to side with my fellow citizens in any event, but it seems only proper that the drug smuggling criminal's government would want an investigation.

36 posted on 02/14/2007 6:44:27 PM PST by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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To: yoe

Now we have people using Jerome Corsi as a source for their own "news"? Yes, let's interview katie couric for the definitive story about, say, nothing.


37 posted on 02/14/2007 6:54:34 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: msnimje
They obviously broke the law and screwed up.

Nothing is obvious about this case.
38 posted on 02/14/2007 7:18:48 PM PST by gas0linealley
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To: gas0linealley
Nothing is obvious about this case.

Sure it is, if you approach it with an open mind and read the facts.
39 posted on 02/14/2007 7:44:46 PM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: msnimje
"he will not bow to pressure"

He is a public servant after all.

Bush has really disappointed me, he's actin like a one man show.
40 posted on 02/14/2007 7:52:27 PM PST by servantboy777
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