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Canaries in a coal mine
Townhall ^ | 2/14/07 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 02/14/2007 12:41:46 PM PST by areafiftyone

The most interesting political matchup right now is between former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani because they're running for the same voters.

Over the last 20 years, the largely accurate conventional wisdom has been that the GOP could not nominate a pro-choice politician, just as the Democratic Party could never nominate a pro-life one. Some Republicans, including Ronald Reagan and the elder George Bush, had to move from a middle-of-the-road position on abortion to the right-hand guardrail, while some Democrats who once leaned to the pro-life side of the road had to make a similar move in the other direction.


Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani poses for a photograph with supporters during a his appearance at the California Republican Party convention in Sacramento, Calif., Saturday, Feb. 10, 2007. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

That's being put to the test this time around. Romney was a dedicated pro-choice politician for most of his career. When he ran against Ted Kennedy for the Senate, he was as pro-choice as you can get.

Now, at least partly to win over social conservatives, Romney is unapologetically pro-life, saying that he realized the folly of his ways when dealing with embryonic stem cell controversies as governor. I have some quibbles with his conversion story, but that's a subject for another column.

Then there's Rudy. He's going a different way. While tacking and trimming somewhat, he's basically staying pro-choice. Whatever his true convictions, the simple fact is that he has little choice. Unlike Romney, who had the stem cell controversy as an impetus for his conversion, Giuliani - who once almost went into the priesthood - now has no plausible excuse to switch positions even if he wanted one. You need some story, some event, to believably pull off a switcheroo of that proportion, and running for president isn't one of them. So, while he's saying the right - and Right - things about judges and judicial restraint, he's not backing off.

It seems indisputable that prior to 9/11, Romney's strategy would win and Giuliani might not even bother trying.

Of course, Giuliani's national profile expanded enormously because of 9/11. And while the press harps on that point, the more interesting part of the story lies elsewhere. The war on terror hasn't just changed Giuliani's profile as a crisis-leader, it's changed the attitudes of many Americans, particularly conservatives, about the central crisis facing the country. It's not that pro-lifers are less pro-life or that social conservatives are suddenly OK with homosexuality, gun control and other issues where Giuliani's dissent from mainstream conservative opinion would normally disqualify him. It's that they really, really believe the war on terror is for real. At conservative conferences, on blogs and on talk radio, pro-life issues have faded in their passion and intensity compared with the war on terror. Taken together, terrorism, Iraq and Islam have become the No. 1 social issue for conservative base of the party.

Note: I didn't say it's become the No. 1 foreign-policy or national-security issue for social conservatives. It's become the No. 1 social issue, at least for many of them.

Unambiguous polling data is hard to come by on this point, but the anecdotal data is enormous. From my e-mail alone, it's obvious. Books that frontally challenge Islam as a religion have become mainstays of conservative publishing. Meanwhile, Dinesh D'Souza's book, "The Enemy at Home," a passionate, socially conservative polemic calling for the American right to align itself with traditional Muslims against the domestic left and Islamic extremists, has found itself almost entirely undefended on the right for its perceived effort to "blame America first."

William Bennett, the famed "virtue czar," emphasizes the civilizational struggle more than any other and gets an enormous response from social conservatives. Even before the war on terror, evangelicals embraced Israel for myriad reasons, among them a theological affinity for the Jewish state and a faith that it is an imperiled sister democracy. Such convictions are only multiplied and personalized for these Americans by events since 9/11. At National Review's "conservative summit" last month, Romney talked at length about abortion but gave short shrift to the war, and the disappointment in the room was palpable.

That's not to say either Romney or Giuliani will win, but they're the ones to watch because they get to design their first impressions in a way other top-tier candidates like John McCain and Newt Gingrich can't. Romney and Giuliani, both immensely attractive, savvy and well-funded politicians, are in effect the canaries in the coal mine of conservative politics. If either emerges from the dark tunnels of primary season alive, it will tell us a great deal about the future of the GOP and American politics.

Jonah Goldberg is editor-at-large of National Review Online.


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KEYWORDS: demclones; electionpresident; fakes; hildebeestslayer; hillarysfavoritegops; proabortgop; pseudocons; rinomey; rudythegreat
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1 posted on 02/14/2007 12:41:48 PM PST by areafiftyone
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To: Blackirish; Jameison; Sabramerican; BunnySlippers; tkathy; veronica; Roccus; Jake The Goose; ...

((({PING))))


2 posted on 02/14/2007 12:42:48 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone

Now I got that darned Police song playing in my head.


3 posted on 02/14/2007 12:44:04 PM PST by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


4 posted on 02/14/2007 12:45:25 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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To: areafiftyone
In other words, they're both lying SOBs.

"How can tell a politician is lying? His lips are moving."
5 posted on 02/14/2007 12:46:46 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: Little Ray
In other words, they're both lying SOBs.

Thanks for getting right to the substantive issues.

6 posted on 02/14/2007 12:47:32 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (http://www.virginiaisforrudy.com)
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To: areafiftyone
It's criminal when human lives become political footballs.

Carolyn

7 posted on 02/14/2007 12:48:53 PM PST by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: areafiftyone

Good article, thanks.


8 posted on 02/14/2007 12:51:07 PM PST by Sunsong
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To: areafiftyone
At conservative conferences, on blogs and on talk radio, pro-life issues have faded in their passion and intensity compared with the war on terror. Taken together, terrorism, Iraq and Islam have become the No. 1 social issue for conservative base of the party.

William Bennett, the famed "virtue czar," emphasizes the civilizational struggle more than any other and gets an enormous response from social conservatives. Even before the war on terror, evangelicals embraced Israel for myriad reasons, among them a theological affinity for the Jewish state and a faith that it is an imperiled sister democracy.

Thanks for the ping.

9 posted on 02/14/2007 12:52:26 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: areafiftyone

So, if you are a Democrat you have to be really really really liberal and if you are a Republican you just have to be liberal. Hmm...count me out of both.


10 posted on 02/14/2007 12:52:42 PM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: areafiftyone
The war on terror hasn't just changed Giuliani's profile as a crisis-leader, it's changed the attitudes of many Americans, particularly conservatives, about the central crisis facing the country. It's not that pro-lifers are less pro-life or that social conservatives are suddenly OK with homosexuality, gun control and other issues where Giuliani's dissent from mainstream conservative opinion would normally disqualify him. It's that they really, really believe the war on terror is for real. At conservative conferences, on blogs and on talk radio, pro-life issues have faded in their passion and intensity compared with the war on terror. Taken together, terrorism, Iraq and Islam have become the No. 1 social issue for conservative base of the party.

Note: I didn't say it's become the No. 1 foreign-policy or national-security issue for social conservatives. It's become the No. 1 social issue, at least for many of them.

And yet some of us recognize that the most devastating impact of 9/11 has nothing to do with terrorism. The so-called "war on terror" has deluded many people in this country into believing that we can enhance our focus on some issues at the expense of others. The simple, brutal truth is that radical secularism has been -- and will continue to be -- far more devastating to this country than radical Islam could ever dream of being.

The fact that so-called "conservatives" would even consider an avowed big-government leftist like Rudy Giuliani shows how far we've come along this road.

11 posted on 02/14/2007 12:52:58 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: areafiftyone

Excellent article. Thx for posting it.


12 posted on 02/14/2007 12:55:21 PM PST by MilesBennell
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To: Alberta's Child

On many threads I have asked why the Rudy supporters like him. There are only two answers.
1. He "is the only one who can Beat Hillary"
2. He "Will be great in the war on terror."

Neither is a provable statement. But we are just supposed to march along like good little girls and boys and not worry about it.


13 posted on 02/14/2007 1:08:06 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum

You forgot #3. He stopped public urination also.


14 posted on 02/14/2007 1:10:08 PM PST by beltfed308 (Democrats :Tough on Taxpayers, Soft on Terrorism)
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To: Alberta's Child
The simple, brutal truth is that radical secularism has been -- and will continue to be -- far more devastating to this country than radical Islam could ever dream of being.

I certainly agree that secularism is a huge danger, but the men and women whose lives are on the line in Iraq, Afghanistan and, soon possibly, over Iran would differ with you.

Many of our leaders have said that the nuclear destruction of an American city isn't a question of "if"...but "when." IMHO, that puts the war with islamofascism number one.

15 posted on 02/14/2007 1:11:13 PM PST by MilesBennell
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To: redgolum

I like Rudy, because,
In addition to the two you cited, I add:
1) He has demonstrated leadership in his career as a crime fighting US attorney and Mayor;
2) He has demonstrated strong convictions on several occasions regarding the treatment of terrorists like Arafat and others;
3) As mayor he cut taxes, balanced the budget and significantly reduced crime.
4) I like the majority of his positions (I don't totally agree with his position on abortion or immigration)


16 posted on 02/14/2007 1:12:59 PM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: GeorgefromGeorgia
I don't totally agree with his position on abortion...

I learned an interesting tidbit today from Hannity: It is accurate to say that Giuliani is more pro-life than was Reagan. Reagan, when governor, promoted and signed a law that authorized abortion.

17 posted on 02/14/2007 1:26:40 PM PST by Rudder
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To: areafiftyone; All
Romney and Giuliani, both immensely attractive, savvy and well-funded politicians, are in effect the canaries in the coal mine of conservative politics. If either emerges from the dark tunnels of primary season alive, it will tell us a great deal about the future 1 of the GOP and American politics.--Jonah Goldberg


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AN OPEN LETTER TO ALL AMERICANS

RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton

 



Dear Concerned Americans,

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The context of our concern today--regardless of political affiliation--is Iraq and The War on Terror, but the larger fear is that our democracy may not survive.

We have the requisite machines, power and know-how to defeat the enemy in Iraq and elsewhere, but do we have the will?

In particular, do we have the will to identify and defeat the enemy in our midst?

Answerable to no one, heir apparent in her own mind, self-serving in the extreme, hillary clinton incarnates this insidious new threat to our survival.

What we decide to do about missus clinton will tell us much about what awaits us in these perilous new times.

COMPLETE LETTER

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RE: a not-so-modest proposal concerning hillary clinton


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18 posted on 02/14/2007 1:27:48 PM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: MilesBennell

No problem! :-)


19 posted on 02/14/2007 1:28:54 PM PST by areafiftyone (RUDY GIULIANI 2008 - STRENGTH AND LEADERSHIP)
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So, We can't elect a known Conservative like Duncan Hunter because he JUST a House member but, We can elect a MAYOR?


20 posted on 02/14/2007 1:31:23 PM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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