Posted on 02/14/2007 6:35:54 AM PST by savedbygrace
I think you are missing the BIG point here. Microsft went so far overboard in implementing DRM that is has broken pretty much everything on the market to date. With an iPod, you can still rip your CDs and not see any DRM restrictions. You buy a DVD player, hook it up to an HDTV and enjoy. With Vista, you can't do either if you use S/PDIF.
See any problems here? It's night and day.
In this case, I can cast some blame on the enabler in this case. Apple implemented DRM in iTunes, and it's not killing the customer experience.
--The RIAA and MPAA screaming for something is one thing, making it happen at the cost of your consumers is something TOTALLY different. Microsoft is VERY complicit in this whole thing, no matter how much you don't want to admit it.--
If you want to play their HD media, you will have to comply. All systems will have to, including APPLE.
Disney can now sue to prevent any use of Snow White, which they stole to begin with.
Or, more exactly, they exercised fair use and THEN bribed Congress to grant them copyright over something that wasn't theirs.
--Apple implemented DRM in iTunes, and it's not killing the customer experience.--
That is because most of the songs on IPODs are not DRM.
Over 2 billion songs sold on iTunes.
thanks again
Wouldn't that also imply you work for RIAA / MPAA? ;-)
--Over 2 billion songs sold on iTunes.--
That is like 20 songs per IPOD. I stand by my post. Most songs on IPODS do not come with DRM (iTunes).
Funny....I do plenty of music downloading with Vista, and I have never had a problem with DRM. I must be doing something wrong....I mean, right.
AS opposed to the Zune where EVERY song is wrapped in DRM regardless of the source - http://www.medialoper.com/hot-topics/music/zunes-big-innovation-viral-drm/
Still think Apple and Microsoft handle things the same way?
--Still think Apple and Microsoft handle things the same way?--
IPOD doesn't have WiFi. But rest assured that Apple will comply with DRM requirements in Leopard just as MS does in Vista.
" Why, I guess I would go in and smash their unlicensed furniture and break their appliances, then sue their grandmothers.
Matter of fact, maybe I would do that if I thought they MIGHT move in.....
Do I win a job at MS or RIAA now? :-)"
There's a difference between might do and did.
MS didn't create any of these regulations, our congress did, MS is merely implementing those features into Vista, otherwise the RIAA and MPAA may, with a logical conclusion to their practices, sure MS and every PC owner because they have the ability to circumvent the laws.
So, you can make snide remarks about the logic behind it all you want, but in the end it's still government regulations and laws that created this mess.
That's like blaming the auto companies for making their cars too small and light because the government created fuel efficiency laws that requires lighter more fuel efficient vehicles.
Microsoft followed DRM to its natural conclusion they are by far the worst offenders on the street right now but they are, by no means, alone.
There's a difference between might do and did.
I agree with you about the origins of the problem. We can call it "regulations" to avoid the less polite "RIAA Bribes".
Below is an example of "Smashing the furniture because someone MIGHT do something", and I expect you are well familiar with it:
"The threat of driver revocation is the ultimate nuclear option, the crack of the commissars' pistols reminding the faithful of their duty. The exact details of the hammer that vendors will be hit with is buried in confidential licensing agreements, but I've heard mention of multi-million dollar fines and embargoes on further shipment of devices alongside the driver revocation mentioned above.
This revocation can have unforeseen carry-on costs.
Windows' anti-piracy component, WGA (or in Vista's case its successor Software Protection Platform, SPP), is tied to system hardware components. Windows allows you to make a small number of system hardware changes after which you need to renew your Windows license (the exact details of what you can and can't get away with changing has been the subject of much debate).
If a particular piece of hardware is affected by a driver revocation (even just temporarily while waiting for an updated driver to work around a content leak) and you swap in a different video card or sound card to avoid the problem, you risk triggering Windows' anti-piracy measures, landing you in even more hot water.
If you're forced to swap out a major system component like a motherboard, you've instantly failed WGA validation. Revocation of any kind of motherboard-integrated device (practically every motherboard has some form of onboard audio, and all of the cheaper ones have integrated video) would appear to have a serious negative interaction with Windows' anti-piracy measures.
Would you care to point me to the laws that =require= Vista to make it so that if you have SPDIF output on your computer that it be disabled/degraded?
"Would you care to point me to the laws that =require= Vista to make it so that if you have SPDIF output on your computer that it be disabled/degraded? "
You're not going to find one that explicitly states that.
MS, as all technology companies have found, is that S/PDIF ports are unable to transmit sound data in a secure method for encrypting and decrypting, at least not yet, so that's the reason that port won't work with PROTECTED media, with unprotected it would work just fine.
None the less, how many of you here sit and watch movies on your computer at home?
Most people have a DVD player on their TV, they're cheap enough and work well.
As for music, if you download it from a reputable music service (iTunes, Napster, etc) then you can listen all you want, you can even still strip CD's on Vista (I know, because I run Vista at home and have stripped CD's)
None the less, if you don't like it don't buy it, it's a pretty simple concept.
"Digital 'Rights' Maagement" ("All your rights are belong to US!") Or, "Let us manage all your rights because it's all just so complicated!"
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