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America's Newest 'Victims'
Opinion Journal (WSJ) ^ | February 13, 2007 | Mark Yost

Posted on 02/13/2007 8:01:15 AM PST by EveningStar

Retired NFL players discovers football was bad for their bodies. What were they expecting?

(Excerpt) Read more at opinionjournal.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: nfl; victicrats; victimhood
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To: dleecomeback07
So you cheered the crash in We Are Marshall?

You lost me. I will have to go and look that up.

On the evening of November 14, 1970, Southern Airways Flight 932, a McDonnell Douglas DC-9 which Marshall University chartered to transport the Thundering Herd football team to Greenville, North Carolina and back to Huntington, West Virginia clipped trees on a ridge just one mile short of the runway at Tri-State Airport in Ceredo, West Virginia and crashed into a gully. The team was returning from their game against the East Carolina University Pirates — an eventual 17-14 loss. There were no survivors. In all, seventy-five people lost their lives. The dead included the thirty-seven players, Tolley and five members of his coaching staff, Charles E. Kautz, Marshall's athletics director, team trainer Jim Schroer and his assistant, Donald Tackett, twenty-two boosters, and five crew members.

Oh. Now that is tragic.

Are you sick in the head? That is just completely wrong for you to be hurling that accusation at people.

It is also completely off point and off your topic. A tragic crash has no relationship to the injuries athletes obtain when working in their profession.

I think I got the 'point' just fine. I also have a pretty good idea what sort of sick minded individual you are.

41 posted on 02/13/2007 9:37:09 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad
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To: EveningStar
I know a handful of former pro football players and a few former pro basketball players. All have at least one bad knee or shoulder that aches 7/24. Most were not big names and have gone onto 'regular middle to upper middle class jobs. Each can predict weather changes and have surgical scars that are impressive, to say the least. Dobler et al have my sympathy but it was a choice they made.

So if guys now are getting a hundred times what they got, the next batch will get a hundred times what the current guys get. They made the mistake of being born to early.

42 posted on 02/13/2007 9:39:46 AM PST by pikachu (Support Global Warming by buying your future beach front property in Denver today!)
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To: dleecomeback07
Are you retarded?

Why do you keep saying the same things over and over?

Are you a very good driver?

43 posted on 02/13/2007 10:06:01 AM PST by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: blau993
They were well paid

Not always. Some of the old school guys that built the sport weren't paid crap. The pimps-n-thugs making phat bling-bling today can afford to pay the medical bills of the guys that made their profession what it is today.
44 posted on 02/13/2007 10:20:24 AM PST by BJClinton (articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy)
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To: EveningStar

Why don't they just put on skirts and go play soccer with Beckham.


45 posted on 02/13/2007 10:22:25 AM PST by Ieatfrijoles (Incinerate Riyadh Now.)
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To: dleecomeback07
Go watch We Are Marshall a lot of athletes die in it and you'd be able to cheer that.

Lighten up, Francis.


46 posted on 02/13/2007 10:28:03 AM PST by BJClinton (articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy)
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To: EveningStar

Conrad Dobler was a dirty offensive lineman, not a dirty defensive lineman, as the article states.


47 posted on 02/13/2007 10:28:20 AM PST by mseltzer
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To: Our man in washington

Get rid of astroturf. After a game on grass it would only take a day to recover. The one or two games a year I'd play on turf would rip me up for 3-4 days. I can only imagine how rough it would be in the pros with 250 lb linebackers smashing down on you and you land on a carpet thrown over concrete.

Plus the turf increases concussions and torn ligaments.


48 posted on 02/13/2007 10:33:42 AM PST by BJClinton (articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy)
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To: EveningStar

Never hear ex-hockey players whining!

49 posted on 02/13/2007 11:27:47 AM PST by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: Bommer

That's because they knew when to get the puck out.


50 posted on 02/13/2007 11:34:36 AM PST by EveningStar (Hillary Clinton is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit - P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

why do people always have to use ballet as an insult?


51 posted on 02/13/2007 11:37:48 AM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: trimom

"This is what Tiki Barber was saying all this year. Enough of the pounding, it's time to get out."

And boy did he catch a lot of flack from fans and pundits. But 20 years from now he might still be able to walk and add two digit numbers in his head.


52 posted on 02/13/2007 11:43:20 AM PST by gracesdad
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To: PurpleMan
Do it once w/out a helmet and you've leaned.

Leaned? Does that mean that once you've been hit, the fat gets knocked out between the ears, and you can start thinking more clearly?

53 posted on 02/13/2007 12:02:08 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: gracesdad

AMEN! After the All-Star game, he was interviewed and said, "I played a kid's game for a king's ransom."

He knows what he did, has perspective on it and knows it's a young man's game.


54 posted on 02/13/2007 1:10:39 PM PST by trimom
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To: Calvin Locke

No. I just means I bee ay badd editer ov me own righting


55 posted on 02/13/2007 5:26:11 PM PST by PurpleMan
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To: absolootezer0

I don't know. I was thinking about the fact that I used to spend the afternoon eating a 230 pound guy's forearm while the ballet guys were picking up girls by the crotch. And I made fun of them. What's wrong with that picture?


56 posted on 02/14/2007 4:59:42 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: Richard Kimball

that was most of the reason why i took ballet :)

that and weighing in at 100lbs.. you don't last on the football field.


57 posted on 02/14/2007 5:25:04 AM PST by absolootezer0 (stop repeat offenders - don't re-elect them!)
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To: EveningStar

Going a different route and doing an end-run around any actual, particular claims ;), I wonder about something that maybe someone else out there wondered, from the title.*

What do you think about the idea of automatic, capital-V Victimhood status anyway?

How easily do you reward it--hey, do you "personally" think this way about much of anyone? (By "personally" I mean just in your own minds, without making any legal or social-policy implications out of your thoughts.) And do you actually like, on some level, thinking of any class of people that way?

I've noticed that I don't do so easily at all, even for poor, non-famous people who Arguably Deserve It More.

In other words, if the title lacked Scare Quotes and got applied to some Poor, Not-Famous, More Deserving people, would it bother you?

For example, if "America's Newest Victims" were the title of a 2005 piece on Hurricane Katrina survivors, I'd wince at it. (And I'm not bothered because of specifics--I'd wince at that headline even if every small-v victim were a hard-working, non-criminal conservative who actively evacuated and didn't live below sea level. ;))

* Who knows, maybe the person who devised the title meant something like this too, though it's not the most obvious thing. After all, in a vacuum, these Sarcasm Quotes don't necessarily cast doubt on the idea of Capital-V Victimhood--they can imply that only some people are or deserve to be considered Capital-V Victims.


58 posted on 02/14/2007 8:23:30 AM PST by Lonely Bull
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