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One more industry falls
vanity | The Watcher

Posted on 02/12/2007 9:19:55 PM PST by The Watcher

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1 posted on 02/12/2007 9:19:56 PM PST by The Watcher
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To: The Watcher

No worries. After all, the Patriot Act and domestic surveillance are just fine as long as you're not breaking the law, right? Privacy isn't all that important. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is truth. I guess I better post this while I can.


2 posted on 02/12/2007 9:21:53 PM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


3 posted on 02/12/2007 9:24:04 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Duncan Hunter: Hope of America)
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To: The Watcher

Somebody's going to be pissed about my online petitions...


4 posted on 02/12/2007 9:24:27 PM PST by YoungAmerican84 (Honorary member of the World Zionist Conspiracy)
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To: The Watcher

Thanks for posting this. It was eye opening.


5 posted on 02/12/2007 9:26:33 PM PST by Kevmo (The first labor of Huntercles: Defeating the 3-headed RINO)
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To: The Watcher

Don't care. Seeing the "wild west" tamed is a good thing.


6 posted on 02/12/2007 9:28:29 PM PST by Porterville (Rudy For President 2008!!! Go Rudy.)
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To: The Watcher

can't wait until we have government mandated thought monitoring.


7 posted on 02/12/2007 9:29:07 PM PST by flashbunny (<----- Click here if you hate RINOs!)
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To: The Watcher

Source, please, for your claim that my internet connection is going to be tap.


8 posted on 02/12/2007 9:32:02 PM PST by keat (You know who I feel bad for? Arab-Americans who truly want to get into crop-dusting.)
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To: flashbunny
can't wait until we have government mandated thought monitoring.

flashbunny....we already have it...it's called hate crimes.

9 posted on 02/12/2007 9:33:37 PM PST by politicalwit (Freedom doesn't mean a Free Pass.)
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To: Porterville

Did you get your feelings hurt? Were you outed? What?


10 posted on 02/12/2007 9:34:33 PM PST by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: The Watcher

Twenty years from now our kids and grandkids are going to be shocked to hear that there was a time when we weren't constantly monitored by the government.


11 posted on 02/12/2007 9:38:16 PM PST by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Just ignore it. That is what the VOIP companies did about E911 services. The FCC is not going to enforce it.

BTW, you don't need to worry about complying unless you are a Tier 1 ISP - if any part of your Internet connections travel over ATT/Level3/Cogent/XO etc, then the NSA is already plugged into their fiber.

12 posted on 02/12/2007 9:38:29 PM PST by ikka
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To: The Watcher
This makes no sense. First of all, I can find no confirmation of this one the Internet. Second, it's hard to believe that this would've passed in the first place with so little notice. Third, here is an article dated today that discusses a bill just introduced by Texas Rep. Lamar Smith that would do exactly what you allege is already going to be done. In fact I distinctly recall reading about his introduction of this before and that it didn't pass (and also that Rep. Marty Meehan wanted to introduce a bill that would do the opposite - require the deletion of most ISP records after a short timeframe).

So, in any case, I might certainly have missed something important, but for now I'm skeptical about this pending verification.

13 posted on 02/12/2007 9:39:39 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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To: The Watcher

People who have never put together a small business will not understand the nature of your loss - my prayers are with you...


14 posted on 02/12/2007 9:41:38 PM PST by GOPJ (Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of scoundrels...Crighton)
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To: ikka

You are completely incorrect.

ALL FACILITIES BASED INTERNET PROVIDERS must comply. That means, if you have equipment that connects people or homes or businesses or places... YOU MUST COMPLY.

The VOIP providers did NOT ignore E911. I was about to get into the VOIP business. The VOIP business is all but dead, even with huge customer growth, because E911 mandates built in enough overhead on voice traffic to ensure that copper based voice wasn't in danger.

CALEA compliance for VOIP providers will be incredibly more complex and expensive, too.


15 posted on 02/12/2007 9:42:43 PM PST by The Watcher
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To: AntiGuv
"Second, it's hard to believe that this would've passed in the first place with so little notice"

Congress enacted CALEA in October, 1994.

16 posted on 02/12/2007 9:46:13 PM PST by Unmarked Package (Amazing surprises await us under cover of a humble exterior.)
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To: AntiGuv

You need confirmation? Ok.

http://www.askcalea.net < very "sterile" reading, government speak.

http://www.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Digest/2006/dd061214.html

About mid page in the above URL.

A little more explanation on this next link.

http://blog.tmcnet.com/lawful-intercept/filing-date-for-calea-monitoring-report-upon-us.asp

This link should help a bit, too.

http://www.fcc.gov/calea/

Basically, it has now become unlawful to connect anyone to the internet faster than 200kbps without federal intervention, registration of your service, and statements of compliance with regulation.

Many ISP's don't even know they have to comply yet.


17 posted on 02/12/2007 9:50:40 PM PST by The Watcher
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To: AntiGuv; The Watcher

http://www.cybertelecom.org/voip/fcccalea.htm

Looks like May 14, 2007 is the actual date.


18 posted on 02/12/2007 9:51:20 PM PST by FLOutdoorsman (The Man who says it can't be done should not interrupt the man doing it!)
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To: Unmarked Package

Congress passed CALEA in 1994. It was not until a few months (literally) ago, that the FCC and DOJ decided it would APPLY TO EVERYONE who engaged in the business of transferring information or voice anywhere.


19 posted on 02/12/2007 9:51:57 PM PST by The Watcher
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To: The Watcher; AntiGuv; keat
I believe the deadline is MAY 14, not MARCH 14...

See CALEA FAQ:

Question: By what date must CALEA be implemented?

Answer:

Enjoy your freedom as an American for two more months.

20 posted on 02/12/2007 9:52:01 PM PST by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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