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SALT LAKE CITY BLOODBATH & Shooting in Philly: Multiple deaths reported at both locations.
The Drudge Report (multiple links) ^ | 2/12/2007 | beat reporters

Posted on 02/12/2007 7:49:36 PM PST by Jack Black

Shots fired at Trolley Square; several people injured, others killed Last Update: Feb 12, 2007 8:29 PM

Salt Lake Police say a man opened fire inside the Trolley Square Mall on Monday evening. Police have shot and killed one suspect, and there are preliminary reports that at least five people are dead. There is no second shooter loose inside the mall.

Police report that the shooter was shooting at random in mulitiple areas, but is no longer a threat and there is no further risk at Trolley Square.

Police say that there have been "several" vicitms and "some" fatalities and "some" in critical condition, but could not report further. All victims have been transported to several hospitals in the area.

Multiple police and ambulance vehicles surround the area and initial reports say the mall is in lock down. Most people have been evacuated but some may still be locked in stores. Police could not confirm how many, if any, remained in the mall.

Stay tuned to ABC 4 News for updates on this breaking story


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: islam; moslem; muslim; rop; saltlakecity; seebreakingnewsjack; shooting; suddenjihadsyndrome; utah
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To: nomadicone

Utah has a CCW law. The University of Utah is trying to circumvent the law by forbidding weapons to be carried on their campus. Their rules have been knocked down by the Supreme Court as violating the 2nd amendment.


41 posted on 02/12/2007 8:37:34 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: fatima

What do you recomend, a candle light vigil sing along, wailing and crying into the media camera's for gun control, and of course, grief counceling for the entire community because they just never believed this could happen in their town?

The popcorn is for a liberal media frenzy that usually occurs after something like this, knee jerk reactions from liberal politicians using the opportunity to take a few more of your liberties away.


42 posted on 02/12/2007 8:45:48 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Jack Black

Salt Lake is as liberal of a town as it can be. It is referred to a Little Frisco. It has a Mayor that is as far left as he can be too.


43 posted on 02/12/2007 8:49:40 PM PST by cruise_missile
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To: Jack Black

Philly shooting reportedly took place at some sort of "Board meeting" at the Navy Yard (now a shipbuilding center) - shooter was supposedly upset because he thought he was being bilked out of "a half million dollars" by those at the meeting, according to NBC channel 10 - the slaughter in Democrat-controlled Philly goes on.......


44 posted on 02/12/2007 9:00:44 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: Nathan Zachary
the popcorn is insulting
45 posted on 02/12/2007 9:02:32 PM PST by fatima
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To: fatima

You might say you were a salted!!!


46 posted on 02/12/2007 9:05:22 PM PST by nomadicone
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To: nomadicone

how old are you.


47 posted on 02/12/2007 9:12:13 PM PST by fatima
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To: nomadicone

Yes, concealed carry is allowed in Utah. But Salt Lake City is very liberal. Trolley Square is just a few blocks southwest of the the University of Utah, near some of the most liberal enclaves of the entire state outside of Park City. You're not likely find very many people carrying concealed weapons in or near Trolley Square.


48 posted on 02/12/2007 9:20:34 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Nathan Zachary

You need help-


49 posted on 02/12/2007 9:23:38 PM PST by fatima
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To: Jack Black
Shotgun used in the Salt Lake killings, per news reports. (But we all know that reporters don't know a shotgun from a SMG.)

It was probably one of those fully automatic assault shotguns.

50 posted on 02/12/2007 9:39:11 PM PST by VRWCmember (Everyone is entitled to my opinion.)
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To: Utah Girl

The name McKeown sounded familier from a mall shooting near Seattle last year. But a search dound a different/similar name. But - thought I'd post snippets in how things can turn out when someone has a firearm and is willing to fight back. (Although as the hero stated at the time of the shooting "I guess I wasn't quick enough on the draw".)




The most seriously wounded of the victims, Brendan “Dan” McKown, is being hailed by many as a hero, and is starting a slow trek toward recovery, though he may be partially or completely paralyzed from his wounds. [I'm pretty sure he is still in a wheelchair.]

On the day after the shooting, Maldonado was charged with eight counts of first-degree assault, four counts of kidnapping and two counts of illegal firearms possession and his bail was set at $2 million. He is being held at the Pierce County jail. He pleaded not guilty.

Maldonado has an extensive juvenile criminal background, which would have made it illegal for him to obtain any of the guns he carried into the mall. Maldonado evidently planned the attack, sending a cell phone text message to his ex-girlfriend and to another friend that “the world will feel my anger.”

McKown, 38, of Tacoma, was the last person shot by the gunman. Licensed to carry, McKown is an assistant manager at the Excalibur Cutlery and Gifts store in the mall. He confronted the gunman and briefly drew his own pistol, but told reporters that he returned the gun to his belt and instead verbally challenged the suspect. He said he told the gunman that he ought to put the rifle down. That’s when the suspect swung the gun around and shot him several times. The wounds apparently have left him partially paralyzed, though McKown has told reporters he expects to walk again. He has some feeling in one leg.

Many, including McKown’s parents, are convinced that his intervention stopped Maldonado from shooting several other people.

McKown was not the only armed citizen in the mall, which reportedly bans firearms, but the other man also held fire, concerned that he might hit other shoppers who were trying to dodge the gunman’s bullets.

Charles Warren, owner of the Excalibur chain, spoke to Gun Week from his corporate headquarters in Oregon. So far as he is concerned, McKown is a hero who “still has a job” when he gets out of the hospital.


51 posted on 02/12/2007 9:42:17 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: Jack Black

Actually, the shooter was killed by an off duty police officer before SWAT or just as SWAT arrived. HUGE kudos to this man!! Three cheers for private citizens who care enough to conceal carry!!!!! (the Utah shooting is what I am referring to)


52 posted on 02/12/2007 10:05:52 PM PST by whenigettime
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To: Intolerant in NJ

***the slaughter in Democrat-controlled Philly goes on.......***

Didn't the Mayor of Phily say the cause of their murder rate was the war in Iraq?



53 posted on 02/12/2007 10:08:02 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: fatima
"You need help-

No, this town of liberal cowards who went running the other way needs help.

Had there been a few people carrying, this nut wouldn't have shot so many people.

And I suspect, so do you. Whine-o

54 posted on 02/12/2007 11:59:15 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Jack Black
Somebody get the popcorn...

Going out and buying a gun while you still can might be a better response.

55 posted on 02/13/2007 12:00:46 AM PST by El Gato ("The Second Amendment is the RESET button of the United States Constitution." -- Doug McKay)
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To: Nathan Zachary

You suspect me what :)Whine-o---Good:)heehhee.


56 posted on 02/13/2007 12:07:44 AM PST by fatima
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To: nomadicone
I dare someone to try something like this at one of the malls here in Kentucky. He would find himself the victim of multiple gunshot wounds before he could reload.

Yep! I never go to Jefferson, St Matthews, or Oxmore Malls in Louisville or the local Towne Mall without carrying.

57 posted on 02/13/2007 2:19:35 AM PST by SLB (Wyoming's Alan Simpson on the Washington press - "all you get is controversy, crap and confusion")
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To: fatima
People are dead Jack BAss,real people

My condolences go out the the families. I think you read a little too much into my comment, it was not meant as a put down or making fun of the sadness of this event. "Get the popcorn" is a saying that long-time Freepers use when starting a thread that is likely to generate a lot of responses. As in "this is going to be a long night".

I'm sorry that my comment hit a nerve. It was not my intention.

58 posted on 02/13/2007 7:22:41 AM PST by Jack Black
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To: Jack Black

I understand(((Hugs))) It was local for me.Hate to turn on the news sometimes.


59 posted on 02/13/2007 7:38:05 AM PST by fatima
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To: Jack Black

I drove right past the Trolley Square Mall in Salt Lake a few hours before it all happened. With that said, I would have like to have heard someone say, "Gee, I wish I had had a concealed weapon so I could have done something about it". I'm so sick of hearing the MSM mantra of "Ban the guns! For the children!"


60 posted on 02/13/2007 7:50:32 AM PST by MinstrelBoy (If you're a Republican today, you're a hero.)
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