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No Escape: Male Rape In U.S. Prisons
Human Rights Watch ^ | 2007.02.12 | Joanne Mariner

Posted on 02/12/2007 11:22:29 AM PST by B-Chan

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To: B-Chan

Chuck Colson with Prison Fellowship International has written about this a lot. So has G Gordon Liddy. Not one single "tough guy" would dare make the "then don't end up in there" type comments to Gordon Liddy's face.


81 posted on 02/12/2007 11:45:26 AM PST by GulfBreeze (I Like Duncan Hunter for the GOP Presidential Nomination in 2008)
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To: isthisnickcool

If you've had any dealings with the court system, you would know that innocent people do go to prison. Prosecutors in this country are corrupt.


Regardless, a DUI convict does not deserve to be raped and destroyed for life.


82 posted on 02/12/2007 11:45:49 AM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: zook

Guards listen to lies and BS all day long from people that would put a shank in their heart given the chance. When they hear about a con who claims rape why should they care? The professional standards called for by the job should be the reason but it's hard to feel any sympathy for a guy in jail for beating an old lady up for a SS check or someone who is a 3 time loser.

Why anyone would want to be a guard is beyond me


83 posted on 02/12/2007 11:46:14 AM PST by misterrob (Jack Bauer/Chuck Norris 2008)
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To: B-Chan

You are so right.


84 posted on 02/12/2007 11:46:18 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
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To: P-40
Nor is sympathy required by the Constitution.

True, but then that is due through the command of much higher authority.

85 posted on 02/12/2007 11:46:42 AM PST by GingisK
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To: B-Chan

Has anyone ever made a case that the incidence of rape in prison is common enough that it constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment?"

If so, I think this is a significant issue.
If not, I think this is an isolated (but sad) case.

Be careful about HRW...they have another agenda.


86 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:04 AM PST by kidd
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To: P-40

3 duis is pretty dumb but as a Christian I can't see it justifying putting someone in a situation where one is practically garunteed to be raped.

We're pretty much number 1 in the world, there's no reason we can't clean this garbage up; putting folks convicted of something like that in a scenerio where they're victims to other crimes only makes harder criminals.

Who the heck benefits from that?


87 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:08 AM PST by kawaii (Orthodox Christianity -- Proclaiming the Truth Since 33 A.D.)
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To: P-40

If only we all could be as tough as you, P-40.


88 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:19 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Those tempted to gloat would be well advised to remember that it is very easy highly unlikely but not impossible to end up in slam in the United States

There, it's fixed.
89 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:33 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
I have worked in several correctional facilities

Chain gang?

90 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:35 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: P-40
Fortunately it is a state matter, and not a religious one.

For those with a moral compass, the two are inseperable.

91 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:41 AM PST by GingisK
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To: B-Chan

I'm pretty sure the only prison violence most FReepers give a damn about is the kind carried out against ex-border guards.


92 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:58 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: EndWelfareToday

wow...are YOU ever naive!!!

and moreover, that does not justify a prison system out of control...and it is! Drugs, rape, gang fights. Wake up america. This is a disgrace.


93 posted on 02/12/2007 11:48:01 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Apparently, "isthisnickcool" believes the Duke lacrosse players deserve to be raped.


94 posted on 02/12/2007 11:48:17 AM PST by stinkerpot65
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To: MovementConservative
Sorry, bub. If I ended up in the slammer and was targetted for rape, they would first have to kill me. I'd fight with every inch of life left before I'd allow that. I'd rather die a man than survive as someone's woman.

Easy to say from the safety of your comfy computer chair.

95 posted on 02/12/2007 11:48:25 AM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: mysterio
I still get exasperated by the "if you're not doing anything wrong" crowd around here. Absolutely zero foresight or imagination.

I hear ya. Plenty of ways innocent people can end up in the slam: cases of mistaken identity, false rape accusations, legitimate self defense (where a liberal, reflexively anti-gun jury might not see it your way), ....the list is long.

96 posted on 02/12/2007 11:48:29 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Alouette

wow..you usually post such good posts. This is not one of them.


97 posted on 02/12/2007 11:48:52 AM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Oprah is a phony money grubbing self centered sleeze ..Now we see how you made your 1.5 Billion!!)
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To: misterrob

You could apply your same reasoning to police officers to defend them beating the crap out of most of the people they arrest. As with cops, I think we need to pay more for better guards.


98 posted on 02/12/2007 11:49:13 AM PST by zook (America going insane - "Do you read Sutter Caine?)
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To: Constitutional Patriot
Prisoners who rape should be castrated, as should corrections personnel who actively or passively condone rape.

100% agree that would fix the problem. But the do-goody-warm-fuzzy-everyone-has-feeeeelings-lets-all-have-a-group-hug mentality is not going to let that happen and that same mentality is why these things happen in the first place.
The PC handbook has geared us to believe that criminals should get the best treatment possible while the victims have to accept "better luck next time"
99 posted on 02/12/2007 11:49:15 AM PST by HOTTIEBOY (Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors.)
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To: B-Chan

Hey I don't have any sympathy for people who break the law and get thrown in prison. Having said that, this stuff makes me angry because it's one more indication that the inmates seem to be running the show. Maybe if we went back to hard labor for 14hrs a day these animals won't have the energy to engage in all the illicit behavior.


100 posted on 02/12/2007 11:49:18 AM PST by paddles
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