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Republican Calls For Email And IM Monitoring
VUNet ^ | 2/9/07 | Iain Thomson

Posted on 02/12/2007 9:12:04 AM PST by steve-b

bill introduced to the US House of Representatives would require ISPs to record all users' surfing activity, IM conversations and email traffic indefinitely.

The bill, dubbed the Safety Act by sponsor Lamar Smith, a republican congressman from Texas, would impose fines and a prison term of one year on ISPs which failed to keep full records....

(Excerpt) Read more at vnunet.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections; Technical
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; duncanhunter; gopsucks; govwatch; nannystate; policestate; privacy; stupidparty
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To: zeugma

Oh, I wouldn't doubt that.


101 posted on 02/12/2007 11:14:53 AM PST by miliantnutcase ("If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. If it stops moving, subsidize it." -ichabod1)
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To: VeniVidiVici

The whole gist. The purpose. It's none of the governments business.

I want them to "get out of my way"*.

*John Galt


102 posted on 02/12/2007 11:23:26 AM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: ShadowAce

Tech ping


103 posted on 02/12/2007 11:26:59 AM PST by bamahead
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To: steve-b

Oh but being a little liberal is better than being totally liberal. /sarc

Yeah, stupid is still stupid.


104 posted on 02/12/2007 11:30:43 AM PST by rintense (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: steve-b
Lamar Smith, time to replace him..... He supports National ID card as well. Back in the late 1990's, he tried to derail legislation to get rid of the requirement that SS#'s had to be displayed on driver's licenses !

Statist's regardless of partied need to be relieved of duty - removed from office.
105 posted on 02/12/2007 11:36:57 AM PST by CORedneck
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To: steve-b

Why are they needing to look at everyones. MYOB!!! In case they don't know what that means...Mind your own business. Government is getting more and more intrusive everyday.


106 posted on 02/12/2007 11:38:59 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: RobRoy
The whole gist. The purpose. It's none of the governments business.

I want them to "get out of my way"*.

And you really think that's going to happen?

So what part have you played to make this come about?

107 posted on 02/12/2007 11:39:12 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (¡El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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To: steve-b

Stalin would have loved this. Yet our borders are wide open, and this administration has made it clear to the border guards to do nothing, or else!


108 posted on 02/12/2007 11:40:44 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Reagan would vote for Hunter)
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To: flashbunny
Not true. Shut down starbucks, american idol, or grey's anatomy, and the people will revolt.



You got that right. Mass suicides. People would inundate the congress over this....
109 posted on 02/12/2007 11:45:50 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: steve-b

I'd like to see a bill opening up the closed doors of congress. Maybe a bill to openly monitor everywhere congressmen go to eat/drink,, where they take their vacations and who with,, perhaps even a web page where any American could access how much money a senator and representative have in their checking and savings account and where the deposits come from. I am very serious. They love to watch our every move. Their cameras snap away the very instant the red light flashes to catch us in the very second we break the tiniest of laws,, they want to know our web surfing habits, our grocery lists, and so on,,, but for them?? Why, their offices are hallowed ground! They could hide evidence of a crime in plain sight, but we are not allowed to enter. Could not a congressman or a senator be as much, if not even more of a threat to this nation than the average citizen?? Maybe it's time we demand their habits be displayed across the internet, or on monitors one could watch from any sidewalk, ,, sounds good to me.


110 posted on 02/12/2007 11:47:23 AM PST by freemike
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To: Squawk 8888
The First didn't even come to mind for me- what about the Fourth? How could this law pass judicial muster if phone taps still require a warrant?

You're right. It's amazing what these evil people will try to get away with. The first time one of them even thinks about introducing a piece of legislation that is contrary to what the Constitution says, we need to get the rope out and hang them. Every time they get away with something, it just further encourages them to try to take more from us.

111 posted on 02/12/2007 11:50:30 AM PST by NRA2BFree (DUNCAN HUNTER FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008! HE IS AN HONEST CONSERVATIVE!!)
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To: steve-b

SAFETY Act....Stopping Adults Facilitating the Explotation of Today's Youth Act.

Whoever knowingly conducts, or attempts or conspires to conduct, a financial transaction (as defined in section 1956(c)) in or affecting interstate or foreign commerce, knowing that such transaction will facilitate access to, or the possession of, child pornography (as defined in section 2256) shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.'.

`(a) Offense- Whoever, being an Internet content hosting provider or email service provider, knowingly engages in any conduct the provider knows or has reason to believe facilitates access to, or the possession of, child pornography (as defined in section 2256) shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both.

The article didn't really mention that this is to target Child pornography providers and users.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c1100je4f7::


112 posted on 02/12/2007 12:00:39 PM PST by Rheo
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To: steve-b

Who's gonna read ALL the stuff? haha


113 posted on 02/12/2007 12:12:24 PM PST by Rick.Donaldson (http://realitycheck.blogsome.com)
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To: VeniVidiVici

>>And you really think that's going to happen?<<

Not any more.

>>So what part have you played to make this come about?<<

Last time I did this, beyond voting, was when I was part of a march in Seattle that actually STOPPED Hillary's health care gauntlet in the nineties. I was one of the few that actually got in the area in front of her. I made a comment through a makeshift bullhorn and we made eye contact. We had a "moment". ;)

It is clearly too late now. I've seen the american people.

Who is John Galt?


114 posted on 02/12/2007 12:12:30 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: RobRoy

The weak succumb. The strong survive.


115 posted on 02/12/2007 12:16:12 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (¡El proletariado del mundo, une! - Xuygo Chavez)
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To: Rheo

> The article didn't really mention that this is to target
> Child pornography providers and users.

It doesn't matter what the tax leeching ballot lice **say** the purpose is.

What matters is the practical effect, which in this case is to record for an indefinite period of time all surfing activity of everyone (too stupid to use an anonymizer).


116 posted on 02/12/2007 12:20:45 PM PST by voltaires_zit
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To: steve-b
Time to resurrect this:

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117 posted on 02/12/2007 12:22:07 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: VeniVidiVici

>>The weak succumb. The strong survive.<<

With that I agree. But strength is not always physical. It is interesting to read about who did and did not survive the German death camps. It was not always who some would characterize as the "strong".


118 posted on 02/12/2007 12:26:05 PM PST by RobRoy (Islam is a greater threat to the world today than Nazism was in 1938.)
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To: steve-b

If it isn't Democrats screwing the public over it's Republicans. Our politicians are criminals.


119 posted on 02/12/2007 1:32:55 PM PST by monday
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To: taxcontrol

"If I want to hide my presence and actions on the Internet, I can do so in such a manner that it would be next to impossible for someone to track my actions."

Yep, criminals can get around this no problem. It will be used to punish innocent people instead. Politicians are jumping for joy since now they will be able to go after anyone who disagrees with them, with ease. Can you say IRS audit?


120 posted on 02/12/2007 1:38:56 PM PST by monday
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