Posted on 02/12/2007 6:43:36 AM PST by areafiftyone
MANCHESTER, N.H. - New Hampshire residents likely to vote in the Republican presidential primary a year from now think more highly of former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani than any of his rivals, a poll released Tuesday shows.
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Giuliani's net favorability rating — the proportion of people viewing him favorably minus the proportion viewing him unfavorably — was 56 percent, well ahead of Sen. John McCain (news, bio, voting record), 32 percent, and former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, 26 percent, in the University of New Hampshire poll for WMUR-TV in Manchester.
"He's the lesser-known candidate, but he has that rock star quality," poll director Andy Smith said of Giuliani. "He has a charisma that was built after 9-11."
This long before an election, political professionals pay more attention to favorability than voters' choices if they had to vote today. McCain and Giuliani were essentially tied at about 27 percent on that question among likely GOP primary voters, followed by Romney at 13 percent and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich at 9 percent.
The GOP portion of the telephone poll reached 311 likely voters from Thursday to Monday and had an error margin of plus or minus 5.6 percentage points.
Former Sen. John Edwards and Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama (news, bio, voting record) had net favorability ratings ranging from 61 percent to 55 percent, too close to be statistically significant.
When asked for whom they would vote, 35 percent of likely Democratic voters picked Clinton, 21 percent Obama and 15 percent Edwards. Eight percent chose former Vice President Al Gore, who is not running.
The Democratic portion of the phone poll reached 353 likely voters and had an error margin of plus or minus 5.2 percentage points.
Independents may vote in either primary, and 68 percent of them indicated they planned to vote in the Democratic primary compared to 32 percent leaning toward the GOP contest.
"This will hurt Republican candidates who try to appeal to more moderate, independent voters," Smith said.
"Some will even be voting for OBAMA!" I hope people that deluded stay as far away from the GOP as is possible to get. They are not friends or allies.
Strong defense? National Security? Fiscal responsibility? Fighting Crime? Supporting the wartime President? Welfare Reform? These are all issues where Rudy is strong and the 'rats are weak so Spiff left them off his chart because it didn't help him make his case.
Reducing conservatism to being ONLY about social issues is IMHO not going to fly. For example, Reagan strengthened our national defense, grew the economy and cut taxes. His legacy is in those areas.
On abortion, he couldn't get anything done via Congress (not his fault) and on SCOTUS appointments his first was more about making history than finding the best conservative. His lasting legacy on abortion, regretfully, is the liberalizing he aided in 1967. As President, he also signed an amnesty bill into law. That would also put him on the wrong side of Spiff's chart on THAT issue.
"What is that a new singing group, or just your obgoing craven attempts to devalue traditional American conservatives. Something tells me its the ladder."
I don't have to devalue faux conservatives when they are doing it with almost every post they make. We now know that many will NOT support the GOP candidate, that some will vote for Obama rather than Guiliani.
Faux conservatives will be the ones needing a "ladder" to get out of the hole they are digging for themselves.
You are a lying skunk if you claim I am "craven" for exposing the tactics of the Rudy bashers.
I didn't do any of that. For you to say that I did is dishonest.
Strong defense? Rudy's never had ANYTHING to do with defense. National security? Rudy promoted a corrupt crony for the most important anti-terror job in the country. Fiscal responsibility? Rudy massively increased NYC's debt load.
Rudy has TWO things going for him - support of the WOT, and the fact that he happened to be mayor of NYC when 9-11 happened. And even then, he earlier made the boneheaded decision to base the city's emergency command center in the WTC despite the earlier attack there.
DePauw graduate Dan Quayle's family owned the Indianapolis News when I delivered it, and he couldn't think on his feet, had never had to think on his feet.
Marilyn was in Santa Fe in 1998 testing the waters for him under the guise of working for my congressional candidate. I praised Dan's sense of humor, his recent "tough new three-interns-and-you're out program" joke, and she gritted her teeth and had to catch her plane.
It's nice to have a sense of humor.
It was a real pain when Birch Bayh got elected to the Senate--how could that happen. I had to wash my hands after shaking hands with Indianapolis' Democrat mayor Phil Bayt in the '50s--so how could one get elected to the Senate.
How could Evan Bayh get elected? His ads said fiscal conservative and had no party affiliation.
How could Hillary get elected today?
She can isolate and destroy her opponent using her Saul Alinsky tactics (Barbara Olson, Hell to Pay).
But Rudy Giuliani is a bucket of water on the witch, a lead shield to the Joker's kryptonite.
He's got a sense of humor. He's a fiscal conservative--his tax cutting in NY and making people work rather than giving them the welfare are resonant with President Bush's excellent economic stimulus actions.
And he's the one who can defeat Hillary (or Obama, or Hillary-Obama) and be the Commander-in-Chief to keep the pressure on the islamojihadis over there so they don't have the free time to come back and knock down more buildings.
Hey, Dan Quayle's a hundred-percenter. Maybe he's a good candidate.
Except for that winning thing.
Remarkable how many of the Ultras manage to forget that Reagan was not a hater.
You give him no credit for what he accomplished as Mayor to turn that city around?
Not for consideration for national office. Crime-fighting is mostly state and local. Plus, he nominated all of two pubbies, out of sixty slots, for city judicial positions.
Social conservatives have no one who can defeat any of the top three. Whose fault is that?
Or Lincoln. Or GWB. Or most of our great Republican Presidents.
This is like arguing about who can't win the Super Bowl before training camp has started.
"And now we are being told that Rudy can win." And those doing the telling are solid Republicans.
But all that is neither here nor there. The point is that "social conservatives" cannot defeat Guiliani in the primaries with anyone but McCain. And since they are unwilling to support him they are reduced to mutterings and threats on the fringes.
And WHOSE fault is that?
Obviously another of those "RINOs" who make up about 90% of the party.
LOL Right, faux conservatives. You mean like Jim Robinson?
"Knowing that the Democrat Party lovingly embraces this evil as part of their platform literally makes me sick to my stomach. Every time I see the face of Hillary, Kennedy, Schumer, Reid, et al, I see the face of pure evil. It's as if I'm looking into the face of Nazism.
Rudolf Giuliani does not deliver us from this evil, he delivers us to it."
140 posted on 02/11/2007 5:43:04 PM MST by Jim Robinson
We conservatives post only the facts about Rudy Giuliani. We just post the truth about Rudy`s liberal record. That is what drives you guys BONKERS! LOL
I know it. LOL
The same ones who drove the party off the cliff during the last election?
The GOP drifted leftward and lost. The answer is not to lurch even further leftward, but to re-assert center-right values.
So what's your take on his membership as a part of Stonewall Warriors?
You quoted the poster out of context. He was specifically referring to those who would support Obama over Rudy, but you left that part out.
JimRob has not, to my knowledge, stated that he would support Obama over Rudy.
Quoting individual items out of context to create a misleading impression is not "truth" -- it's a classic technique of propaganda. Which, incidentally, fools nobody on this site.
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