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"I would also note that we have close to 140,000 troops on the ground now and my understanding is that Mr Howard has deployed 1400,''Mr Obama, who next year could become the first African American to be elected US president, said.

I would note that Australia has troops in both East Timor and the Solomon Islands, as part of this War on Terror, and the United States, despite being much larger than us does not.

If Senator Obama expects us to put troops in Iraq because of some statistical reason, I suggest the US needs to send a few troops there.

Of course, such a decision would be strategically pointless, and militarily stupid, because war is not a numbers game. It's nowhere near as simple as how many troops you have on the ground - it's what is needed and what they are doing.

Strategically, it makes sense for Australia to carry the lions share of responsibility in our own backyard (and I would be remiss if I failed to mention that the US has been quick to assist us logistically in both those operations when there has been something they could usefully do), and so we have taken on the heavy lifting there. But that limits the troops we have available for other theatres in this Global War on Terror.

The big question I have - and the reason why the idea of President Barak Obama is a big concern for Australia, moreso than a President Hilary Clinton would be, is whose side would Obama be on in the event of a conflict between Australia and Indonesia?

What worries me is a repeat of the Falklands situation, writ large - when the United States is forced to choose between two nations it wants to be friendly with.

To the credit of the US, back then they chose to go with the UK over Argentina when it came down to brass tacks, but back then Ronald Reagan was in the White House. You don't get that many Ronald Reagans.

1 posted on 02/11/2007 8:04:50 PM PST by naturalman1975
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These three will tell Howard off for sure....

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2 posted on 02/11/2007 8:07:26 PM PST by nctexan
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Obama can kiss my Rosy red A$$
3 posted on 02/11/2007 8:07:58 PM PST by Empireoftheatom48 (God bless our troops!! Our President and those who fight against the awful commie, liberal left!!)
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I am so damn jealous of Australia. You have such a freaking excellent leader.


4 posted on 02/11/2007 8:08:01 PM PST by steel_resolve (They hate us because they do not rule us)
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OMG that too funny ROFL


5 posted on 02/11/2007 8:08:18 PM PST by SevenofNine ("We are Freepers, all your media belong to us, resistence is futile")
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Mr Obama, who next year could become the first African American to be elected US president, said.

Dear Lord, I hope not.

6 posted on 02/11/2007 8:08:33 PM PST by madison10
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The disgustingly personalized rhetoric of the democrats is reaching frightening proportions. This is the cult of personality which the left thrives on.

War, peace, security - the lives of our families - are not "put up or shut up" games to be played by childish politicians. Obama has disqualified himself from any pretense of being a responsible leader on foreign policy. He could have responded to the policy point in a number of effective ways. Instead, he and the democrats responded like a bunch of school yard thugs.

7 posted on 02/11/2007 8:10:48 PM PST by Williams
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This piece from 2004 makes interesting reading in light of recent events.

Well worth checking out.

8 posted on 02/11/2007 8:11:17 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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"I think it's flattering that one of George Bush's allies on the other side of the world started attacking me the day after I announced,'' Mr Obama said.

America has friends Mr. Obama. Presidents and presidential candidates come and go.

9 posted on 02/11/2007 8:12:09 PM PST by donna (It's not vanity to want to influence the issues. It's good citizenship.)
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The US Senator,currently 88th in seniority in the Senate, has a long way to go before the wetness behind his ears dries up. A few days in the Outback might help towards that end.

I'm sure Mr. Howard is quaking in his boots after being read the riot act by this wimp of a Lincoln wannabee. ;-)

Thank you for your service in the battle for the preservation of Western Civilization.


11 posted on 02/11/2007 8:12:21 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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Obama can get a dog up 'imself!


12 posted on 02/11/2007 8:13:15 PM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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How ugly of Borat Dumbamba to throw around references to 20,000 troops and "put up or shut up" as a childish taunt. Is he off his rocker?


13 posted on 02/11/2007 8:13:34 PM PST by Williams
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Osama/Obama is essentially proposing that Australian troops replace American ones. Some leadership, you toad.


15 posted on 02/11/2007 8:14:01 PM PST by denydenydeny ("We have always been, we are, and I hope that we always shall be detested in France"--Wellington)
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Just goes to show that Obama isn't fit to be a senator let alone president.


17 posted on 02/11/2007 8:15:32 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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It's George Bush's war, foreign leaders are George Bush's friends. What a childish jerk Odumba has turned out to be. The left is an ugly ugly peice of business. Blacks aren't really black if they disagree with the left, and now foreign leaders can expect their nations to be discounted if they dare speak out.


20 posted on 02/11/2007 8:16:29 PM PST by Williams
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A cut and run, wet behind the ears dim giving John Howard advice? Obama Hussein isn't even good enough to carry John Howards jock.


21 posted on 02/11/2007 8:17:14 PM PST by libs_kma (Monica blew while Al-Queda grew.....Oh well, Clinton happens!)
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The big question I have - and the reason why the idea of President Barak Obama is a big concern for Australia, moreso than a President Hilary Clinton would be, is whose side would Obama be on in the event of a conflict between Australia and Indonesia?

If you have to ask that question, then you probably already know the answer.

24 posted on 02/11/2007 8:17:36 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (Go Gators! NCAA Football and Basketball Champions!)
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Ignorance. The US is 15 times larger than Australia, and no western/allied nation maintains the proportional military that we do save Korea and Israel. He should keep up this rhetoric though; hopefully he'll be nominated and then flushed.


25 posted on 02/11/2007 8:19:55 PM PST by MSF BU
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Barrak Hussein Obama needs his big Dumbo Ears boxed! He is NOT the secretary of state! He is NOT even the ambassador to Australia. He IS a nobody on the geopolitical stage!

BHO GO HOME! (not Illinois either!)


Our kindest thanks and gratitude to our Aussie Allies!!!!! This POS does NOT speak for the USA!!!!!

27 posted on 02/11/2007 8:20:09 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (This most beautiful system could only proceed from the dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being)
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Wow, Ears must be eating his Wheaties lately.

Obamamania has got him dominating the news this weekend...the Pantsuit must be pretty peeved. Nobody is paying attention to her house parties in NH (where Drudge reported she mentioned Bill about 15 times).
31 posted on 02/11/2007 8:22:11 PM PST by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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So what exactly doe the junior senator from Minnesota want? Either he wants all the troops out or more sent in. Those are his current two positions. Perhaps tomorrow he'll want to maintain them at current levels as well.


32 posted on 02/11/2007 8:24:03 PM PST by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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