[oceanview]

you will not be able to recover the country from a Dem serving two terms in 2008/2012. you'll get a national health care plan, and once americans are slid into it and lose their employer provided care - the program will never be able to be dismantled. if a Dem wins in 2008, those SCOTUS picks will effectively end any conservative advancement on the social issues (abortion, gay marriage) until 2040.

[servantboy777]

Are we seeing the advancement of conservative values now?

My opinion.......we are not.

Huge hike in non-war related discretionary spending
Adding billions to entitlement programs such as the new Rx drug benefit
Wide open borders/ amnesty for 20million illegals
Enormous trade imbalance

Are these conservative values.......I submit, they are not.

Just say a moderate or a liberal republican does get elected.

Would you be comfortable with amnesty for all these illegals?

How would you feel if the former mayor presented to congress some form of national gun control?

What about marriage redefined as same sex?

Is it ok to relax even further statutes governing abortion?