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McClintock Calls Off Truce With Schwarzenegger
SF Chronicle ^ | February 10, 1007 | Carla Marinucci

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:48:46 PM PST by freedomdefender

He's announced he's starting up a new committee and website, Citizens for the California Republic, to organize what he says will be 75,000 "citizen politicians" to help push ballot initiatives and legislative action that will also -- bottom line -- push back at some of the and social and fiscal policies of the governor.

Today's interview with the Senator in Jon Fleishman's FlashReport leaves no doubt that McClintock -- never soft spoken on conservative issues -- has ended the truce with Schwarzenegger that held until the last election, when they were supposed to be a "ticket."

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: callingallgrunters; callingallilk; mcclintock; schwarzenegger
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To: calcowgirl
Nice try -- you are the one who has been working tirelessly to elect Democrats. What upsets you is that I see through your little sharade and dare point it out.

The Dems masquarading as conservatives

The premise follows a scheme previously found most often on talk radio programs: a liberal activist calls a conservative radio host, such as Rush Limbaugh or Laura Ingraham, and delivers the line: “I’ve been voting Republican for 30 years, but I’ve finally had it and I’m not voting this year.” Or my favorite: “I’m a Reagan Republican, but I’m fed up and voting for John Kerry.” (Because that is what Reagan Republicans would do, vote for John Kerry.) At this point, the host usually asks a couple of questions and it becomes painfully obvious that the supposed Reagan Republican has probably never voted for anyone right of Michael Dukakis.

The intentions are clear: the caller hopes to make it appear as though there is already a large uprising of conservatives who are rebelling against GOP candidates, and thus, wishes to incite other Republicans to pick up the same attitude and pass it along, leading to the Democrat becoming more competitive. The successes of such a strategy on voting habits are unclear, especially given that the conservative radio host often refutes the caller’s talking points.

But the pretend-conservative act is being carried onto a whole new playing field, one that has become wildly influential over the past few years and one that does not stand to be instantly recognized as a fake. That playing field is the blogosphere, which is then used in conjunction with massive e-mailings to “spread the word” (as one e-mailer insisted I do to my readers/e-mail list) to other conservatives.

The concept is the same: the blog or e-mail claims, first, that the said writer has been a conservative for years and that they have “had it with Republicans.” They then point to an issue that conservatives would likely be upset about such as excessive spending, immigration, or the expansion of government. Their supposed rage over the issue has convinced them to either not show up to vote in 2006, or, in order to really show Republicans, vote for the Democrat instead.

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You are the one who keeps advocating against voting for Republican candidates who can actually beat the Democrats. If the shoe fits and all that...

21 posted on 02/11/2007 2:54:52 PM PST by FairOpinion (Tell Congress: Work for Victory in Iraq. Stop Hillary. Go to: http://www.TheVanguard.org)
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To: calcowgirl

The real question is why you spend so much time on a conservative forum pushing the most liberal candidates with an (R) by their name.

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I think Sundheim etal have paid people to post here.


22 posted on 02/11/2007 2:56:55 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: FairOpinion

Yawn.


23 posted on 02/11/2007 3:05:06 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: forester

Very true.


24 posted on 02/11/2007 3:05:43 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: stillonaroll

I did the same thing with the Indiana governorship in '04!


25 posted on 02/11/2007 4:39:30 PM PST by JSDude1 (www.pence08.com.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl
THe REAL question is why have you been supporting Bustamante, Angelides and why are you now supporting Hillary?

Oh please.

26 posted on 02/11/2007 4:39:35 PM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl
You are the one who keeps advocating against voting for Republican candidates who can actually beat the Democrats

There is nothing 'republican' about these people, unless the republican party is really the party of the big government global socialists. If that's the case, the party should change its name, rather than keep putting up phony candidates that abhor conservatives, limited government, national sovereignty and individual liberties.
27 posted on 02/11/2007 4:46:39 PM PST by hedgetrimmer (I'm a billionaire! Thanks WTO and the "free trade" system!--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: Cicero
As a result, McClintock lost.

Losers blame.

28 posted on 02/11/2007 4:49:03 PM PST by paulat
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To: Cicero
Someone has to represent the Republican base in California, and sure as hell Arnold isn't doing it.

Something has to represent the Conservative base in California and the nation. The question is, is the Republican Party going to do it? Can conservatives retake the Republican Party either statewide or nationwide?

If not, then at some point I may just leave the party that has actually "LEFT" me and go to the Constitution Party with, I hope, many others.

29 posted on 02/11/2007 4:50:25 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: FairOpinion
THe REAL question is why have you been supporting Bustamante, Angelides and why are you now supporting Hillary?

Your tired old strawman is past being tattered. Just go away, shill.

30 posted on 02/11/2007 4:50:44 PM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: FairOpinion; calcowgirl

"THe REAL question is why have you been supporting Bustamante, Angelides and why are you now supporting Hillary?"


Well...well...well...the last remaining Kool-Aid drinking RINOld supporter on FR shows up....

We're still tryin' to figure out if you're related to RINOld or just on his payroll or both!

In the future, if you are going to show up on these threads; we would appreciate it if you would at least give us a BARF ALERT before you break wind.


31 posted on 02/11/2007 4:56:38 PM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: freedomdefender

I looked on the Citizens for the California Republic website for references to support for upcoming ballot initiative, etc, and couldn't find anything.


32 posted on 02/11/2007 4:59:09 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: forester
I think Sundheim etal have paid people to post here.

Ya' think?

Truth is, FR has been replete with PR lobby accounts for some time now. Every GOP candidate for '08 already has a resident shill here, as do many of the major issues, such as border enforcement.

The scripted talking points are pretty easy to spot though. Every one of them is using some set list of rhetoric BS designed to tell Conservatives of some stripe or another about how compromise is their only hope, how holding to principals is evil, how the boogy man will git ya if you don't knuckle under, how you are secretly pushing the Dem agenda by opposing ALL candidates who push the Dem agenda, etc.

Come the '08 elections, I would be very leery of the "class of '07" FReepers whose sign up dates mysteriously match the announcement of their particular holy cow. Meanwhile, the longtime shill accounts are pretty well exposed by now.

33 posted on 02/11/2007 5:04:38 PM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: freedomdefender; All
Why do these threads so quickly disintegrate into personal attacks? This site needs to be more constructive than this. Let's stick to the issues. If someone posting here is a stealth RINO, so what? The real conservatives among us need to get it on with the challenges we face, influencing as many as we can to do the same. Let's forget about the little kid stuff.
34 posted on 02/11/2007 5:09:19 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

I'm not a Californian, but my impression is that the Republican money men are country clubbers, but the great majority of California Republicans are conservatives.

Arnold was inserted by outside influences, after they failed to put in Richard Riordan.

In my view, the problem is that the conservatives need the country club money because campaigning is so expensive in California, especially against a liberal press, but the country clubbers seem unwilling to given them much of what they want in return for their votes.


35 posted on 02/11/2007 5:09:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: calcowgirl; FairOpinion

I see we have heard from the Head Cheerleader for the Austrian's Amen Corner. None are so blind as a RINO who refuses to see.


36 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:18 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: freedomdefender

A principled man, it appears.


37 posted on 02/11/2007 5:42:58 PM PST by Zack Nguyen
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To: LexBaird; calcowgirl
Truth is, FR has been replete with PR lobby accounts for some time now. Every GOP candidate for '08 already has a resident shill here, as do many of the major issues, such as border enforcement.

What these people have failed to realize is the amount of blowback to their actions. It is not the easily lead types that are needed to organize and canvas a precinct to get out the vote. Rather, it is the intellectual types that they disrespect here, and other forums. Is it any wonder then, after repeated attacks on conservatism - aimed at the very people that the party needs to operate; that the CALGOP is in trouble:CA: Turmoil In The Republican Party Over Money, Ideology (and debt debt debt..)

They have reaped what they have sowed

38 posted on 02/11/2007 5:49:13 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


39 posted on 02/12/2007 2:41:13 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: freedomdefender

Wonderful. Two Republicans beating each other up again. I know that Arnold is not perfect....ok far from it, but do we have to have two Republicans crying and beating each other? I think perhaps he is still disappointed that he did not win his elected and is still upset that Arnold did. You know politics is not fun especially for a person who loses.


40 posted on 02/12/2007 2:49:16 AM PST by napscoordinator
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