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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
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Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: spunkets
I have no respect for those who are so blinkered and biased, that they are incapable of posting a reply, without foaming at the mouth; especially when it's their own words and sentiments. which they claim never to have posted.

Your class warfare tactics are feeble; as is your grasp on political reality, politics, and how the world really is.

361 posted on 02/11/2007 7:33:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TommyDale

I answered that, but apparently I can't give an answer that suits you. I can live with that.


362 posted on 02/11/2007 7:34:13 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Fierce Allegiance

I looked it up. January 27th when you were lying about me. You kept going on about what you were drinking and going to the frig:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1774810/posts?page=229#229

When one clicked on your name it said banned or suspended. You did not post anything for 24 hours ... the entire day of January 28th.

You retuned on the 29th:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775404/posts?page=7#7

Hope that clears it up for you, troll.


363 posted on 02/11/2007 7:35:30 PM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: kinoxi
Well, at least you're saving money; you no longer have to PAY, to get your masochistic tendencies served, by being on Rudy threads. ;^)
364 posted on 02/11/2007 7:35:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Fierce Allegiance
The person who posted this to you is completely bonkers, and has been called "Free Republics meanest poster" by MANY people. Tangle with her further at your own peril.

Have the courage to ping the person you're trashing.

365 posted on 02/11/2007 7:35:54 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: airborne
Perhaps we should change the name of this site to RudyRepublic.com

They believe that if they post enough threads the sheeple will open their mouths wide enough that they can cram Rudy down. Didn't you know all the cool people are voting for Rudy?

367 posted on 02/11/2007 7:36:39 PM PST by Elyse (I refuse to feed the crocodile.)
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To: nopardons

Enjoy, I don't approve but try to respect it...


368 posted on 02/11/2007 7:37:46 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: AmeriBrit
I have no idea how to post a 22 page pdf file and even if I did I don't think the amount of bandwidth it would take would be appreciated. Perhaps if you backtracked here a little and read some of nopardons posts it might give you some idea, other than that you'll have to do your own leg work to find out how he's filled his time for the past 27 years, padding his and his buddies pockets...

That's a cop-out response.

You've made a charge that Hunter is corrupt. I've asked you support that statement in your own words with one or two charges and you don't.

Most people don't follow every blind lead they see on the net. If they did, they'd be spending half their lives chasing God knows what. If you wish to make a point, it's the appropriate thing to back it up, especially when you call somebody corrupt.

369 posted on 02/11/2007 7:37:51 PM PST by FreeReign (Still waiting for the best conservative candidate.)
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To: PhiKapMom

I'm not onboard the Rudy bandwagon, PKM, yet.


It might not be long, if all I see in opposition are lunatics.


370 posted on 02/11/2007 7:38:20 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

So can you agree that since he has a track record, and is a public figure, and is running for President that he is fair game? I really can't say that I have seen anything that is UNfair.


371 posted on 02/11/2007 7:39:43 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Those of us who are "flame hardened" have long term memories.

OMG, remember the 2000 threads?

372 posted on 02/11/2007 7:39:49 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: TommyDale

Yes, what's unfair is the repeated accusations that he's a cross-dresser, a baby-killer and going to seize our guns.

Everything he's done and said deserves better scrutiny than a label.


373 posted on 02/11/2007 7:44:40 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: kinoxi
Apparently english isn't your first language, so I'll type real slow for your.

G o F i n d a n y p o s t w h e r e I h a v e s u p p o r t e d A N Y O N E

There is that clear enough for you? I haven't picked anyone to support, but let me know who you back so I can be sure to wipe him off my list forever.

374 posted on 02/11/2007 7:45:29 PM PST by McGavin999 ("Hard is not Hopeless" General Petraeus)
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To: Dog Gone
I see new things in interviews, other sources, (well away from this forum) that are making me more comfortable with Rudy every day.

The trash talk only makes me research deeper into what is said about him, from other sources. I come up with a lot of old biased rhetoric in regards to the bash-trashers on this forum. Outside of this forum, I find mostly positive, good information about the man, and also good things on many threads here. What I have found is, the good far out weights the bad.
375 posted on 02/11/2007 7:45:42 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: Dog Gone

I was kidding around with you! It grows on you once you start defending! :)


376 posted on 02/11/2007 7:46:05 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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To: nopardons
"I have no respect for those who are so blinkered and biased, that they are incapable of posting a reply, without foaming at the mouth; especially when it's their own words and sentiments. which they claim never to have posted."

Cough 'em up.

" Your class warfare tactics are feeble; as is your grasp on political reality, politics, and how the world really is."

Whatever. Country club rules. Good luck with the bliss ninnies.

378 posted on 02/11/2007 7:48:12 PM PST by spunkets ("Freedom is about authority", Rudy Giuliani)
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To: McGavin999
All too well! The Keyes/Buchanan bunch. But I think this bunch is nastier though. they are far meaner and cut much deeper with the personal attacks, both on Rudy and the members who support him.
379 posted on 02/11/2007 7:49:48 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

You and me both! Be great to have some of those people back. After reading that link and reading what some of the anti-Rudy Freepers of today were saying back then I guess nothing should surprise me. They were not Republican then and they are not Republican now IMHO!

BKO was such a wonderful person and writer who has been missed because she was class all the way.


380 posted on 02/11/2007 7:50:13 PM PST by PhiKapMom (Broken Glass Republican -- Rudy 08 -- Take back the House and Senate in 2008)
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