Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone
Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007
It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.
The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.
The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.
As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.
Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.
Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.
As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.
Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."
The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."
Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."
Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.
The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.
So, you consider revering, protecting, supporting, and defending our 2nd Amendment rights, and the right of the unborn to live, among other conservative AMERICAN views, right wing?
I, and MANY other no-sh*t conservatives on FR have stated over and over again that we'd likely vote for most ANY solid conservative that has put his hand in the ring, over ANY RINO.
At this point, I'd say Duncan Hunter has the best conservative track record. You say RINO-rudy is a leader, but I say, he is only a leader in the slimy liberal northeastern-corridor mayor sort of way. Duncan hunter, having been in the military was/is a leader in the truest sense.
LMAO! I was suspended and never even knew it. HAHA!
Be gone with you, troll.
Thought so, you just can't seem to back up your big mouth.
Let's just remember Rudy as the man that saved NYC.
You love Rudy, one of us is a indeed a liar.
You were drunk that night. You probaby were in a stupor is all I can think of.
You tout your incredible closeness with the mods and getting inside info. Ask them fopr cripes sake.
I don't believe anything you say and for good reason.
Fine, I said at the beginning of this thing that the lurkers were laughing at you, by now they ought to be in hysterics.
I know I wouldn't want to be facing that type of bill!
ROTFLMCO, what are you drinking?
A little bit 'o wine right now. You are completely sober?
What is, is.
"I was just throwing your own words back at you"
rubbish.
"you feel absolutely NO compunction, at all, to spew out lies, libel, slander, and specious, carefully cherry-picked, BY OTHER POSTERS,"
BS. I knew the gun grabbing tyrant since he became a fed prosecutor. Where's the evidence I lied. Come on, cough it up. Libel and slander my ass.
" Do you believe in State's Rights?"
Irrelevant. The 14th Amend applies the Bill of Rights to every jurisdiction in the land. The right of the people, to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. Infringement time is over.
" Do you believe that elected officials MUST follow the law of the land?"
The 2nd Amend is the law of the land. Follow it.
"Or do you really want, in your heart of hearts, not a president, but some kind of fairy tale genie, who will IMMEDIATELY undo/do whatever it is you think should be undone/done; irregardless off the laws of this land and the way our government has been set out to work?"
Irrelevant, and specious. I'm not promoting a gun grabber, that has no respect for freedom, and thinks the Bill of Rights is simply an historical oddity. The govm'ts only justification is to protect rights, and the law of the land is the 2nd Amend. Freedom is about Liberty, not authority.
"It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us? That's about as far as I needed to read. Lets just go from "compassionate conservative" to all out liberal why don't we. Pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, pro-gun control........yeah, he's my candidate.....
"It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us? That's about as far as I needed to read. Lets just go from "compassionate conservative" to all out liberal why don't we. Pro-gay marriage, pro-abortion, pro-gun control........yeah, he's my candidate.....
If you can't run with the big dogs honey, best stay on the porch.
It's a quote that can not be taken out of context. It the meaning of a complete summary about what one thinks about freedom.
No. You don't know if it's a complete summary of what Rudy thinks about "freedom". Rudy may have listed many things when describing what freedom is about. The quote may be out of context. That's why I want to see the full context.
No it does not. The only justification for govm't is to protect rights.
The number one unalienable right is life and safety. The number one unalienable right for government to protect is life and safety.
That's a pretty misleading quote, since Rudy thinks govm't is there to not only keep people safe, but "to determine what you do, and how you do it.
What? Your logic is circular. I give you a Rudy quote that shows a fuller context of what Rudy might think freedom means and you revert back to the first single quote with no surrounding context to say that the quote is misleading.
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That's opinion onion mine ooonleee! Donut git maad dis ist ein premiere Amendment per tutti
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