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Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need
411 ^ | 2/11/07

Posted on 02/11/2007 12:44:55 PM PST by areafiftyone

Rudy Giuliani Has Got What You Need


Posted by Mark Radulich on 02.15.2007



It won't matter what Giuliani thinks about about abortion if Iran drops a bomb on us. And quite frankly I'm much less worried about Islamic terrorism with President Giuliani in charge than President Brownback or Clinton.

The story right now being bandied about by the mainstream media and the talk radio world is that the GOP has no front-runner for the 2008 Presidential election or that the front-runners are not exactly inspiring anyone. The three most prominent names right now are obviously John McCain, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani.

The reason these three contenders fail to ignite the imagination of their base is not because they aren't competent leaders or even forces to be reckoned with in terms of security but rather that they fail to meet the social conservative litmus test of Republican base. They are not anti-gay marriage, anti-abortion or anti-gun control enough for many social conservative voters to trust and therefore many just aren't excited enough to stand behind these while either Clinton or Obama make their way to the White House.


As I've said before, social voting in the age of world wide Islamic terrorism befuddles me. I suppose President Brownback could try and outlaw abortion but a world free of legally murdered babies doesn't stop Mohammed from blowing himself up outside of your local Starbucks. President Huckabee could save the institution of marriage for the next thousand years by sending all homosexuals to France forever but that has nothing to do with Iran or North Korea and the likely possibility that they will facilitate one of many terrorist groups getting their hands on a nuclear device. Stopping stem-cell research doesn't drop the bomb from being dropped on Israel or us for that matter so I fail to see how social vote should supercede security and foreign policy votes.

Let me explain it this way; You have what's called Maslow's Hierarchy of Human Needs, which is a theory in psychology that Abraham Maslow proposed in 1943 that states as humans meet 'basic needs', they seek to satisfy successively 'higher needs' that occupy a set hierarchy. Maslow wrote that "the study of crippled, stunted, immature, and unhealthy specimens can yield only a cripple psychology and a cripple philosophy." In other words, if your most basic needs weren't met, then your emotional, spiritual and psychological growth would be stunted or crippled.

Maslow's hierarchy of needs is typically represented as a pyramid with the more primitive needs at the bottom and consisting of five levels: the four lower levels are grouped together as deficiency needs associated with physiological needs, while the top level is termed growth needs associated with psychological needs. While deficiency needs must be met, growth needs are continually shaping behavior. The basic concept is that the higher needs in this hierarchy only come into focus once all the needs that are lower down in the pyramid are mainly or entirely satisfied. Growth forces create upward movement in the hierarchy, whereas regressive forces push prepotent needs further down the hierarchy.

As you can see from the pyramid shown above, the first two levels of need are physical survival needs such as water, food, sleep, warmth and exercise and safety and security needs. The other more ethereal needs don't come into play until those two levels have been met.

Now let's look at the candidate most likely to be beat Hillary Clinton should the Democrats opt to give her a run at the White House, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani. Aside from the fact that he's the most like GOP candidate to actually win NY since probably the Reagan administration, Giuliani's record stacks up pretty well against the first two levels Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

As Mayor of the largest city and arguably the most important city in America, Giuliani had to manage the city public works efficiently and make the city livable for its residents. According to his campaign website, "Rudy Giuliani cut more taxes than any Mayor in New York City history, reducing or eliminating 23 city taxes, saving individuals and businesses a cumulative $8 billion, while reducing New Yorkers' tax burden by nearly 20%. By the end of Giuliani's term in office, New Yorkers enjoyed their lowest tax burden in three decades, along with the creation of approximately 425,000 new private sector jobs… When Rudy Giuliani took office, 59% of New Yorkers said they would leave the city the next day if they could, according to a CNN/Time poll. Drawing upon the "Broken Windows" theory of policing, the City cracked down on quality of life crimes such as aggressive panhandling, graffiti, and drug dealing, transforming places like Times Square into safe destinations for theatergoers and sightseers. The City launched an aggressive initiative against drunk drivers, and implemented a ban on sex shops within 500 feet of residential neighborhoods, churches, and schools. In addition, Mayor Giuliani acquired 2,038 acres of new parkland – the most in more than 50 years."


The former mayor also has a solid record on protecting children and increasing security in a city that once rivaled other big cities in rapes and murders. "Under Rudy Giuliani's leadership as Mayor of the nation's largest city, murders were cut from 1,946 in 1993 to 649 in 2001, while overall crime – including rapes, assaults, burglary and auto-thefts – fell by an average of 57%. According to the FBI, New York was transformed from the crime capital of the country into the Safest Large City in America, while becoming the global model for excellence in law enforcement. Rudy Giuliani believes that "Public safety is a fundamental civil right…when you reduce crime, you restore people's freedom."

Acting on his belief that "One of the most important responsibilities of government is to protect children from harm," Mayor Giuliani worked to create the city's first independent child welfare agency, reducing the foster care population by promoting a record number of adoptions, and doubling child support collections by cracking down on deadbeat dads, and implementing a program called HealthStat, which identified unenrolled children eligible for health insurance."

Giuliani obviously will be strong on domestic law and order issues as well as quality of life issue but the big question will be whether or not he has the gumption to fight Islamic terrorism worldwide. If his speeches are to believed and his actions concerning an anti-Semitic Saudi and a very large check are any indication then I believe Giuliani will be the kind of terror warrior many of us thought Bush would become.

The world has become too small to be so caught up in social policy voting. No matter who you vote in, either very liberal or very conservative, the fact of the matter is that abortion will never be prohibited in our lifetime but the likelihood of Iran or China starting a nuclear war is and the smart people of this country should be thinking about what kind of leader they want to be in charge when that does happen. When your most basic needs are being threatened and your livelihood is under attack from foreign invaders, who do you think is going to protect you and fight the enemy, Giuliani or Hillary Clinton? At the end of the day, social votes aside, Giuliani has got what every American needs – the ability to lead and manage this nation while fighting the enemy abroad.


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To: ClarenceThomasfan

I am sure glad that you are speaking AS an Evangelical, and not FOR us.


181 posted on 02/11/2007 3:31:35 PM PST by Coldwater Creek
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To: Zack Nguyen

Fail? As of now...still very early, Giuliani is really the only one ahead of the queen in the polls...if there's actually someone that you do like, how are they doing in the polls against her or vs. other Republicans?


182 posted on 02/11/2007 3:32:02 PM PST by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: pookie18

You can support the loser if you want. I won't stay home, there's plenty more things to vote for than two liberals.


183 posted on 02/11/2007 3:36:30 PM PST by upsdriver ((Hunter for Pres/ Ann Coulter Sec, of State))
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To: beltfed308; merry10
By at least being soemthing other than a mayor like a governor,congressman or senator perhaps?

You're still wiggling! I already made the case of the mayor who handled much larger problems than the oilman!

You continue this flawed argument assuming people won't read every post!

Wise up, sir!

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184 posted on 02/11/2007 3:37:47 PM PST by melancholy (The GOP nominee, whoever he is, will get my vote, period.)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan
...

George W. Bush 39%
Elizabeth Dole 17%
Dan Quayle 12%
Steve Forbes 7%
Lamar Alexander 4%
John Ashcroft 4%
Newt Gingrich 4%
John Kasich 4%
...


Very interesting post. What is also interesting is that McCain isn't even on the radar in '98. Wonder who the "McCain-equivalent" (if any) will be in 2008?
185 posted on 02/11/2007 3:38:44 PM PST by Nervous Tick
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To: Nervous Tick
Here's an interesting FR thread from Aug. of '99: Stonewall Mr. Bush

....and there are many more just like it.

187 posted on 02/11/2007 3:38:57 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: pookie18

COLMES: Now, Roe vs. Wade -- You are pro-choice. How important is it to you as a pro-choice Republican to have a pro-choice on the court as someone...

GIULIANI: That is not the critical factor. And what's important to me is to have a very intelligent, very honest, very good lawyer on the court. And he fits that category, in the same way Justice Ginsburg fit that category."

Doesn't sound to me like he is going to nominate strict constructionists. He nominated leftists almost exclusively to judicial positions when he was mayor.


188 posted on 02/11/2007 3:43:45 PM PST by Politicalmom ("Always vote for principle...and your vote is never lost."-John Quincy Adams)
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To: upsdriver

That's still a vote for Hillary, but it's your vote. I voted for Perot in '92...which helped elect Clinton. I've learned my lesson.


189 posted on 02/11/2007 3:44:03 PM PST by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: WalterSkinner

Maybe we need to get some sort of a draft Gov. Sanford movement going.


190 posted on 02/11/2007 3:46:10 PM PST by bitty
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To: Politicalmom
If you want to pick & choose parts of the transcript that's fine. As Hannity pointed out, that discussion dealt with Democrats. Again, with Hillary, you know exactly what you're going to get & her liberalism doesn't end with social issues.


191 posted on 02/11/2007 3:49:01 PM PST by pookie18 ([Hillary Rotten] Clinton Happens...as does Dr. Demento Dean, Bela Pelosi & Benedick Durbin!!)
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To: Cmdr JJ Adams; merry10; beltfed308
Bigger then many states, bigger then many countries, LOL! The NYC budget is somewhere in the neighborhood of 50 Billion Dollars. There are 8 million people, the tri-state area economy hums to the tune of almost a Trillion dollars, the largest in the US of A.

Mr./Ms. beltfed308 is still trying to feed a flawed argument to others. I don't see how he's hiding his head in the sand and carrying on like he never before heard the argument you're supporting!

Just amazing!

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192 posted on 02/11/2007 3:49:16 PM PST by melancholy (The GOP nominee, whoever he is, will get my vote, period.)
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To: airborne
It's getting to be ridiculous how many Rudy threads there are.

Have you counted the number of totally worthless "Duncan Who" posts telling us Duncan Hunter is surging and has doubled his poll numbers to 2% Wow or Duncan Hunter was on CNN again like it was a badge of courage. If you see more Rudy posts its likely be because there are more media articles on Rudy and these are being posted unlike the Duncan Who's who have to resort to posting campaign materials or doing vanities.

193 posted on 02/11/2007 3:57:46 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Mr. Mojo
Here's an interesting FR thread from Aug. of '99: Stonewall Mr. Bush

Wow! An eye-opener, indeed... especially the comments! "There's nothing new under the sun." Thanks. (& long live Free Republic! It's pretty much become my portal for all things politic.)
194 posted on 02/11/2007 3:58:22 PM PST by Nervous Tick
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To: Mr. Mojo
..that was great

Where are those archived?

195 posted on 02/11/2007 3:58:57 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: TommyDale
An ex-mayor suddenly knows all about being a Commander-in-Chief? Getting rid of public urination is somehow a qualification to fighting Islamofascists? This does not compute.

Who has the experience to be Commander-in- Chief except a former President? The only two with that experience and who are eligible are George H. W. Bush and Jimmy Carter.

How far do you want to push this particular argument?

197 posted on 02/11/2007 4:01:17 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: WalterSkinner; Nervous Tick
Here's another one

I found both threads conducting a Google search using various word combos.

198 posted on 02/11/2007 4:01:52 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: erton1

"It is obvious that Rudy is the choice of about 30 times more conservatives than your candidate."

I didn't know the primaries were complete. Oh, that's right they haven't had one yet. Pretty forward statement to make without a single vote cast as of yet. Bet it doesn't quite work out the way you expect.


199 posted on 02/11/2007 4:02:11 PM PST by Nuc1 (NUC1 Sub pusher SSN 668 (Liberals Aren't Patriots))
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To: Dog Gone

My tagline says it all.


200 posted on 02/11/2007 4:03:37 PM PST by TommyDale (Who do you trust? An ex-mayor? Or the ranking member of the House Committee on Armed Services?)
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