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Do Vanity Candidates Really Have a Chance? (Michael Medved)
Michael Medved's Townhall Blog ^ | February 8, 2007 | Michael Medved

Posted on 02/10/2007 2:16:42 PM PST by EveningStar

Two days ago, in blogging about the abortion records of the serious GOP Presidential prospects (McCain, Giuliani, Romney), I provoked a great deal of anger by writing off the other current contenders (Huckabee, Brownback, Tancredo, Ron Paul, Gilmore, Thompson, Duncan Hunter) as "lesser" candidates who stand no realistic chance of winning primaries or grabbing the nomination. No matter how much you may admire these people, their candidacies are irrelevant – more a bid for attention, or a preparation for future races, than a realistic bid for power...

When, in the last 60 years of Presidential politics, did any obscure underdog manage to defy the odds and win the nomination of the Republican Party?...

(Excerpt) Read more at michaelmedved.townhall.com ...


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To: TomGuy

Did you read the article? Your comments indicate that you did not.


121 posted on 02/10/2007 3:21:09 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: cripplecreek
There was a time when the republican party was a 3rd party.

They are apt to become as irrelevant as a third party if they continue down the path they're on.

122 posted on 02/10/2007 3:21:43 PM PST by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: gcruse

He's not knocking the vanities themselves. He knocking the people who think those vanities can really win.


123 posted on 02/10/2007 3:21:57 PM PST by EveningStar (Hillary Clinton is Hugo Chavez in a pantsuit - P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SoCalPol
Most who say they haven't decided yet are ashamed to say who they are for and can't take the heat of having to support their candidate.

You're kidding right? Maybe its because we're the same ones who are smart enough to not marry the first person that winks at us.

124 posted on 02/10/2007 3:23:11 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: gcruse

This is not quite true. The fact is, Paul Tsongas was generally liked by the NPR crowd of the Democrat-ick party and was seen as the eventual winner, with Jerry Brown being the liberal "standardbearer". Clinton was going to be an also-ran until 60 Minutes saved his bacon.


125 posted on 02/10/2007 3:23:19 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: zbigreddogz

I have faced down hundreds and a few thousands of anti war marchers many times with other Freepers and Protest Warriors,
I deal with the left face to face.
also have been working in politics since first working for Reagan when he ran for Gov.


126 posted on 02/10/2007 3:24:06 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: snoringbear
Dole wasn't out polling Clinton, or never even came close to it the whole time he ran.

Rudy has lead Hillary in most every poll across the nation from the first day he was ever projected to run.

Any more theories?
127 posted on 02/10/2007 3:24:34 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (" Judge not and thou shalt not be judged")
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To: SoCalPol
"You sound like another one of the keyboard commandos in your mom's basement who can't face the truth."

I'm a pragmatist with my vote, and I left Mom's basement 40 years ago. You know that politics in self-governed countries is a matter of compromise. I just think it's funny that people hang around this echo chamber at FR and think the majority of people in the USA are their brand of "true conservative." It's laughable. (Mom thinks I'm a Rethuglican Nazi by the way.) She's right, I am. But I'm not one these "my way or the highway" types when it comes to national elections. That was fine before the War on Islamo-Nazism. I never thought I would be a one-issue voter, but times have changed.
128 posted on 02/10/2007 3:24:46 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: Albert Barr
yes, it would be silly to vote your convictions.

Read the tagline.

129 posted on 02/10/2007 3:25:46 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: EveningStar
Some clever chap worded and persuaded JimRob to put up the following poll:

If Romney, McCain, and Giuliani were the only names on the ballot for the GOP 2008 nomination, whom would you vote for?

Composite Opinion

  Giuliani   44.7% 		3,247
    Romney   28.6% 		2,076
Sit it out   21.2% 		1,540
    McCain    5.4% 		  395
	     99.9% 		7,258

130 posted on 02/10/2007 3:26:00 PM PST by Torie (The real facts can sometimes be inconvenient things)
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To: SaxxonWoods

You're so good at being bad. I've been laughing myself silly.

I've got to go play a game with the kids. Have a good time. I'll be back later to check in on fun.


131 posted on 02/10/2007 3:27:41 PM PST by pollyannaish
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To: EveningStar
No matter how much you may admire these people, their candidacies are irrelevant – more a bid for attention, or a preparation for future races, than a realistic bid for power...

Bill Clinton, the Governor of Arkansas making $35,000 a year, no one had ever heard him and he became quite well known.

If large numbers of people support these "lesser" candidates they will enter the national spotlight and be very well known and very credible candidates.

132 posted on 02/10/2007 3:28:45 PM PST by RJL
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To: TomGuy

Dean was not annointed. Not in the least. People forget but Kerry was the very early favorite. The media was fascinated (and a little scared) by the Dean boom.

Dean got into Iowa and -- lo and behold -- no money and no organization did him in.


133 posted on 02/10/2007 3:29:22 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: pollyannaish

Good to "see" you, beautiful! Take care...


134 posted on 02/10/2007 3:29:23 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
In the GOP, however, front-runners don’t just usually win; they always win.

The last time a genuine underdog grabbed the Republican nomination was 68 years ago, when a celebrity lawyer with no political experience named Wendell Wilkie managed to stampede a divided convention.

Mortgage your house and donate it all to Tancredo.

135 posted on 02/10/2007 3:29:40 PM PST by staytrue
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To: pollyannaish

I would rather support someone with decades of experience in military and national security.
I confront democrats daily with the issues some of you on FR might want to do the same rather than rip other republicans.
But then again, there are many on FR who arn't republicans.


136 posted on 02/10/2007 3:30:50 PM PST by SoCalPol (Duncan Hunter '08 Tough on WOT & Illegals)
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To: cripplecreek
There was a time when the republican party was a 3rd party.

Ah yes, the good old days.

137 posted on 02/10/2007 3:30:52 PM PST by staytrue
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To: JennysCool

Actually, he was known as Howard and Harold.


138 posted on 02/10/2007 3:31:19 PM PST by MistrX
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To: Torie

I never would have figured that McCain (old, mean and crazy his own self) would lose to half a vote for Hillary.


139 posted on 02/10/2007 3:31:28 PM PST by AmishDude (It doesn't matter whom you vote for. It matters who takes office.)
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To: SoCalPol

OK, I'll behave for a minute. Does Hunter have a site where I can read his policy positions? And how do I learn his history, to make sure he isn't a pander-bear?


140 posted on 02/10/2007 3:32:09 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Boycott all Leftist Media, ignore them and they will go away...)
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