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To: truthkeeper
I am not a lawyerly type, but I can tell you that if I was one of these agents, I would sure as heck rather win my appeal than be pardoned. One of those two still says I'm guilty but essentially forgiven.

The other says I was never guilty in the first place. I'd rather wait for that. And in an ironic twist of fate..being patient for the win on appeal with actually strengthen a border agents ability to do his job effectively. THAT is a point that seems to be lost in the kerfuffle.

I am always open to new and different information and said that in this case, if new official information emerged, I would change my position.. At this point, this looks like pretty good information for the defendants, and if it turns out to be true, I am thrilled. I would rather have it this way.

This entire issue has only been about histrionics around here for way too long, and the blaming the President is just plain stupid and completely ignorant of both the judicial and executive branches of our government, as well as our constitution. That said, I am pleasantly pleased, and slightly surprised, honestly, that the American legal system appears to actually be working just as it was designed. Go figure.
92 posted on 02/10/2007 7:57:45 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: pollyannaish; All

I understand your point. Still, I'd really like to know long this appeal process could take. There are six small children involved.


96 posted on 02/10/2007 8:00:43 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: pollyannaish

It is hard to see such injustice without involving heart and soul as well as mind. This is the worst injustice I have been aware, of as affecting the future of our country, in all my 70 years, for the simple reason that so few see the case for the open border (and drug cartel) advocacy that it is!!


134 posted on 02/10/2007 8:43:31 AM PST by righteousindignation
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To: pollyannaish
I would sure as heck rather win my appeal than be pardoned.

Concur.
With a pardon there is no further recourse. Win the appeal and bring a RICO case against the whole uplinked tree.

145 posted on 02/10/2007 8:57:08 AM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !!)
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To: pollyannaish
"I am not a lawyerly type, but I can tell you that if I was one of these agents, I would sure as heck rather win my appeal than be pardoned. One of those two still says I'm guilty but essentially forgiven."

Except that the A-O Bush (that I voted for twice) and his crooked administration is going to make sure they don't live long enough to get a new trial...
147 posted on 02/10/2007 8:58:33 AM PST by babygene (Never look into the laser with your last good eye...)
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