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Border agents who testified against convicted co-workers will be fired
The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin ^ | February 10, 2007 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 02/10/2007 5:42:48 AM PST by truthkeeper

Border agents who testified against convicted co-workers will be fired
Men who were at scene of shooting terminated for changing their stories
by Sara A. Carter

Two Border Patrol agents who testified against two co-workers convicted of shooting a drug smuggler will be fired for changing their stories about events surrounding the shooting, according to documents obtained by the Daily Bulletin.

Sources inside the Border Patrol also say Oscar Juarez, a third agent who testified against Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean, resigned from the agency last month shortly before he was to be fired.

All three agents gave sworn testimony against Ramos and Compean for the U.S. Attorney's Office, which successfully prosecuted the shooting case in March. The agents were given immunity in exchange for their testimony despite changing their accounts of the incident several

"When you give deals to witnesses like immunity, the government usually gets the testimony (it wants)," said Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, a former judge and prosecutor. "This case is a perfect example."

(Excerpt) Read more at dailybulletin.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderagents; borderpatrol; compean; convicted; dcpatriotgoober; frobls; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; ramos; retrial
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To: truthkeeper
Let me say it this way. A pardon is premature. I would guess we could probably both agree on that.

I will leave the rest aside the other issues as tangential at this juncture.
121 posted on 02/10/2007 8:31:11 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: DCPatriot

No one ever said you couldn't speak your mind about your liberal tendencies. We also have the right to speak our mind about your liberal opinions.

And when you come here with an accusation of opinion that you think the border patrol agents were going to steal the drugs, then we have a right to tell you that perhaps you should look in the mirror and take a long look when you accuse others of "conspiracy theories".


122 posted on 02/10/2007 8:32:13 AM PST by battletank
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To: anyone
This may already have been addressed, but there's something I've never understood about this case: Why did the U.S. government land so heavily on these two agents? It sure seems like an "administrative" offense worthy of a fine and 3 day suspension, not a federal felony conviction. Can someone please explain?
123 posted on 02/10/2007 8:32:46 AM PST by Cedric
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To: pollyannaish
What about this...in light of this new information, submission of a new motion requesting that they be released pending appeal? (The same motion that was denied previously.)

Can we find common ground on that? (Of course, I don't even know if such a thing is done...legal folks?)

124 posted on 02/10/2007 8:36:53 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: jetson
I think the demand should be full reistatement, with a clean record or Sandy Berger should go to jail. NO FREEDOM FOR HERO AGENTS...THEN JAIL TIME FOR BERGER! a TIT FOR TAT

You know, thats exactly the kind of the healthy government and justice system and society our soldiers have worked so tirelessly and bravely to defend. A Tit for Tat that is the envy of the entire third world. /sarcasm

125 posted on 02/10/2007 8:37:34 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: dirtboy; All
Now I remember why I should stay off illegal immigration threads.

The bigotry and xenophobia shown in these threads is nauseating...and no, I am not calling you such, dirtboy.

Later.....

126 posted on 02/10/2007 8:38:15 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon))
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To: DCPatriot
The bigotry and xenophobia shown in these threads is nauseating...

When you're losing, play the racist card.

Later.....

Bawk bawk bawk...

127 posted on 02/10/2007 8:39:15 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter 08)
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To: truthkeeper

Absolutely. My guess is that they will get it with this new evidence.


128 posted on 02/10/2007 8:39:39 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: dirtboy

You took the words right out of my mouth. That card is getting old...really old.


129 posted on 02/10/2007 8:40:37 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: dirtboy

OMG! It's all so predictable isn't it? That racist card gets well used by the open borders crowd before they run off into the shadows only to appear again in another thread to try the same old worn out crap.


130 posted on 02/10/2007 8:41:19 AM PST by battletank
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To: Cedric
I think that is one of the mysteries....but it is an incestuous bunch down around the border,....families on both sides....
131 posted on 02/10/2007 8:41:42 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The DemonicRATS believe ....that the best decisions are always made after the fact.)
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To: pollyannaish

A reasonable response, imho.


132 posted on 02/10/2007 8:43:17 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: truthkeeper

It's a Federal screw-a-thon. Everyone gets screwed except for the Mexican drug dealer. FOAD Johnny Sutton and the other top ranking US Gubbermint scum down at the border. FOAD Alberto and other DC open borders traitors


133 posted on 02/10/2007 8:43:25 AM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: pollyannaish

It is hard to see such injustice without involving heart and soul as well as mind. This is the worst injustice I have been aware, of as affecting the future of our country, in all my 70 years, for the simple reason that so few see the case for the open border (and drug cartel) advocacy that it is!!


134 posted on 02/10/2007 8:43:31 AM PST by righteousindignation
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To: truthkeeper
At this point I cannot imagine why ANYONE would consider working for the Border Patrol.

Yep, your job is to stop the invaders while your Commander in Chief waves them in. I've seen rankings of job satisfaction within the federal government and border patrol is near the bottom.

135 posted on 02/10/2007 8:43:36 AM PST by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: dennisw

I have a strong suspicion that Johnny Sutton has just proven the Peter Principle.


136 posted on 02/10/2007 8:46:03 AM PST by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: righteousindignation

Ok. I accept you see it that way and as such it is a very emotional issue for you. That makes sense.


137 posted on 02/10/2007 8:46:25 AM PST by pollyannaish
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To: DCPatriot
Now I remember why I should stay off illegal immigration threads.

Just stick to hiring them ya hypocrite. You are part of the problem, not part of the solution. The two Border Agents in prison are part of the solution. They keep illegals out while phony conservatives like you hire them thus drawing them North
138 posted on 02/10/2007 8:46:53 AM PST by dennisw (What one man can do another can do -- "The Edge")
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To: Cedric

Why did the U.S. government land so heavily on these two agents?

That IS the question. I guess one hint at the answer would be to read how the Mexican papers are covering this. It might tell us that this is shameless pandering by our Government to make our government look sympathetic and responsive to Mexico.

Of course, it is possible, along the border to find a lot of anti-American feelings. Remember, for the past 20 or 30 years, the border has been wide open and the division between Mexico and America has become almost a figment of map-makers imagination.

I do wonder about the juries who convicted these agents. But - even if they weren't antagonistic to "la migre", they apparently did not hear significant parts of evidence.

139 posted on 02/10/2007 8:47:19 AM PST by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: truthkeeper

Yep, I agree based on what has been reported. (I have to add that caveat because I trust almost nothing of what I read. ;-) )


140 posted on 02/10/2007 8:48:25 AM PST by pollyannaish
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