Posted on 02/10/2007 5:36:32 AM PST by kellynla
MEXICO, N.Y. (AP) -- Ray DeLong took advantage of a break from the snow to use a blower to forge a path to his driveway as two contractors pushed streams of snow from the roof of his home. The brief reprieve Friday ended early Saturday as snow fell at a rate of 2 to 3 inches per hour, further burying a region already tested by nearly record snowfalls.
"Have to move fast. Want to at least get it off my roof," DeLong said, just hours before more flakes began to fall.
More than a week of bitter cold and slippery roads have contributed to at least 20 deaths across the northern quarter of the nation - five in Ohio, four in Illinois, four in Indiana, two in Kentucky, two in Michigan, and one each in Wisconsin, New York and Maryland, authorities said. No deaths were reported in Oswego County, where Mexico is located, however.
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The stronger the mainstream the greater likelihood of falls ahead.
The IPCC is not in sum a scientific organization at all, anyway, "mainstream" or otherwise. It is a political advisory group, salted with a small minority of atmospheric scientists, established to craft treaty considerations to deal with what in 1980's was already decided to be a foregone conclusion by the UN. The misssion of the IPCC was never to determine whether "global warming" exists--its mission was to accept a priori the assumption that it does, and go from there to influence international political actions. You can look it up. Just thought you might like to know.
What say you, Albore?
With lake effect snow, it's never too cold to snow. Great Lakes, Salt Lake, Tahoe. All you need is cold wind across the open water. It picks up the moisture and when the air slows and rised over land, it snows. As long as the wind blows and the lake is open, it snows and snows and snows. The temp doesn't matter, whether it's 30 or -30.
It's starting to look that way.
I've lived in thenorhtern midwest my entire life and have seen both extremes. I remember hunting deer Nov 20th in short sleeves, closing the usually frozen lake by boat and crusing far up a shallow creek. That was 25 years ago, I've never been able to do that since, because it's been too cold.
People always forget that "winter" doesn't really start officially until Dec 16th or so, for the past 20 years they have always seen snow in these parts before December,(Often at the end of October) and expect to be cruizing around on their snow machines before Christmas. Yet I can remember harvesting flax off the field in October, Sometimes even late wheat.
Climate records show cooling for this region, not warming, but for younger people who don't remember ever seeing these warmer times, anything approaching what "normal" used to be is seen as "global warming".
Whoah! Where are you at?
Unfortunately, though, they'll have to be on the lookout for springtime floods when all that snow and ice does melt...like the spring floods in North Dakota a few years back.
Wanna bet? The nearest great lake to me where cold arctic winds come down from the north is Lake winnipeg, which is frozen solid. No "lake effect" occurs after the ice has formed. In the Northern east, yes, but those lakes are below my latitude. I'd only get lake effect from Lake Michigan if there was a strong wind from the east, Strong enough to carry moisture right over Minn. into ND, which is very rare.
Back then, I was still in the frozen seafood biz, and one of my customers was something like Grand Forks Grocery Company - after the flood, they sent a letter to all their suppliers requesting an extra 30 days to pay, since they might encounter difficulties getting up and running again; of course we acceded - the usual course of action is to just screw the supplier.
Amazingly, our one open invoice ended up getting paid within terms - no delay.
Honorable folks up there!
That flood nearly took out the whole town. One of those times you saw people taking the boat to town... The flooding has been bad every year since as well, but not as bad as that one time.
This is absolutely true.. On the other thread there are a couple hundred pictures like this.
Flax in NoDak??
I thought flax needed warmer temperatures than that. Is it still rett in the field, or is it transported somewhere for processing?
I have been a weaver/felter for over 30 years and once, years ago when I was young, I looked into growing flax, but the entire process was just too labor intensive on a small scale for the fiber actually harvested and folks kept telling me, back in those colder years, that it couldn't be done here (44 degrees N).
Click the link.
So yes, they are linking tons of snow to global warming.
"And no matter what you and your "mainstream scientists" say, I'll leave the weather up to good Lord Almighty! If and when He wants the earth to warm up or cool down; anything short of a nuclear holocaust; what we do won't make much difference."
Amen to that!
Well.... I don't want to scare anyone but this is exactly how an Ice Age begins. Not approximately, not according to some goofy computer models that can't predict previous weather.....but exactly, to the letter.
Pay me. Paypal anyone?
The snow is caused by the lakes being too warm.
A roof with such a slight slant is nonfunctional. It might as well be flat with just enough tilt to drain rainwater. If heavy snow is the design intent, slant the roof 45 degrees so the snow slides right off.
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