Somebody would have to do it, or else we wouldn't have tomatoes.
IN fact, I hire people to do work around my house because I don't want to do it myself. You could make that sound terrible, like I think I'm above those who do menial labor. But in fact it's just a simple statement that I have no interest in installing another hot water heater, so it's easier for me to spend money to get someone else to do it.
And if for some reason we took actions which eliminated all hot-water-heater installers, then I would be forced to install my own. And I would oppose the action, and might be caught saying "I don't want to have to install my own hot water heater", and someone would say I sound like an elitist.
We have jobs we want to have done, and they are menial jobs, and there aren't enough americans around who want to work at those menial jobs.
That's a fact. We have 12-20 million illegals here now, probably 10 million or more doing menial jobs. We have a 4.5% unemployment rate, and almost every fast food restaurant where I live is looking for workers.
If they can't get americans or legal immigrants to do those jobs today, how are they going to fill them when there are 10 million MORE jobs that need to be filled?
Surely not!
NOT on FR!!!!
"...I have no interest in installing another hot water heater, so it's easier for me to spend money to get someone else to do it."
If you lived where I do, the city doesn't allow you to install/replace your own water heater. (Although I think of if more as a guideline!).
or else we wouldn't have tomatoes.
OHHHH pluleeeeeese!! you don't know what you're taking about!!
How many illegals are there picking tomatoes in Europe? Australia? or Canada? The HIGHEST percentage of migrant labor is the US (Dept Labor stats) is 27% in agriculture...
SOOOOOOOOOOOO three quarters of all ag labor is American TODAY! If we weren't flooded with illegals we would have already invested in mechanized tomatoe harvesting! Illegal cheap labor suppresses wages AND innovation as well as capital investment. Are you really dumb enough to hire the illegal on the street corner to install a water heater? nice strawman argument.
The 5% unemployment is bogus and the computation has been rigged since the 80s... we have so many on welfare, there are plenty of home grown Americans that would do menial jobs if we didn't pay them to smoke crack and watch Oprah. They will all fill jobs went we quit subsidizing Sloth... just as when thousands show up for hiring fairs at a new Marriott.
Get real, for a change...
Are you at all concerned about assimilation and who will be assimilating whom?
Interesting that on a conservative web site, you have to explain to people the concept of division of labor.