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Global Warming Skeptics Shunned
Cybercast News Service ^ | 02/08/07 | Fred Lucas

Posted on 02/08/2007 10:36:26 AM PST by Froufrou

The political climate isn't good for scientists with dissenting views on global warming, leaving some researchers to fear that honest research could be blackballed in favor of promoting a "consensus" view.

A dispute erupted this week in Oregon, where Gov. Ted Kulongoski is considering firing the state's climatologist George Taylor, who has said human activity isn't the chief cause of global climate change.

That view is not in line with the state policy of Oregon to reduce "greenhouse gases," which are considered by many researchers to be the chief cause of global warming.

And Taylor is not alone.

Although a recent United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report summary said there is 90 percent confidence that human activity is the main cause of global warming, climatologist are far from unanimous in that view.

"It seems if scientists don't express the views of the political establishment, they will be threatened and that is a discomforting thought," said Alabama state climatologist John Christie, a professor of atmospheric science at the University of Alabama in Huntsville.

Christie told Cybercast News Service that while research has not been politicized in his state, he's concerned about others. State climatologists in Virginia and Delaware as well as Oregon have faced scrutiny from state government officials for their views on global warming.

Christie stressed that Taylor and others do not deny that carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions are problematic to the environment, nor do they deny that global warming exists. Rather, he said, they argue that the matter is not as catastrophic as environmentalists argue.

Environmental groups have argued that global warming skeptics should be ignored or marginalized, but the American Association of State Climatologists urges policymakers to move cautiously when addressing the matter.

"Policy responses to climate variability and change should be flexible and sensible," the AASC says in a policy statement . "The difficulty of prediction and the impossibility of verification of predictions decades into the future are important factors that allow for competing views of the long term climate future."

The policy statement recommends that "policies related to long-term climate not be based on particular predictions, but instead should focus on policy alternatives that make sense for a wide range of plausible climate conditions regardless of future climate."

"Climate is always changing on a variety of time scales and being prepared for the consequences of the variability is a wise policy," it says.

Delaware state climatologist and leading skeptic David R. Legates recently filed a friend of the court brief opposing his state's position in a multi-state lawsuit to force the Bush administration to impose stronger regulations on autos.

The state's Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Control objected because Delaware has taken the position that changes are needed to curb the risk of rising sea levels.

In Virginia, Gov. Tim Kaine has sought to distance himself from state climatologist and global warming skeptic Patrick Michaels by noting that he is not a gubernatorial appointee.

But Michaels, a professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia, was appointed in 1980 by then-Gov. John N. Dalton (R), according to press reports. Nonetheless, Kaine insists that Michaels is speaking only as a research professor and not on behalf of the state.

There are 47 state climatologists, each recognized by the director of the National Climatic Data Center, a division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. They are typically professors of a state university.

Former Vice President Al Gore - whose film on climate change "An Inconvenient Truth" has been nominated to win an Oscar for best documentary - is the latest global warming proponent to echo allegations that skeptics are offering money to scientists to debunk global warming claims.

But Christie counters that it's the "alarmist" view that is driven by money.

"Follow the money," he said Wednesday. "To justify their funding, they have to show a huge problem."

There should be room for both sides of the argument, says Jan Curtis, a board member of the state climatologists group who works for the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Natural Resources Conservation Center in Portland, Ore.

"It's a complex issue and we encourage open debate," Curtis said.

He declined to take a position in the global warming debate, but said of the skeptics, "They are concerned about the limited resources and our dependence on foreign fuels. They just believe you don't need the reason of climate change to do common sense things.

"The real issue here is conservation of limited resources as the population grows," Curtis said.


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"When I want your opinion I'll give it to you!"
1 posted on 02/08/2007 10:36:28 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
Global Warming Turns People Gay
2 posted on 02/08/2007 10:38:49 AM PST by presidio9 (There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
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To: Froufrou
7/8 degree Celsius over 100yrs is what they call Global Warming.
3 posted on 02/08/2007 10:39:13 AM PST by TexasCajun
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To: Froufrou

Typical democrat thought police at work, only now against legitimate scientists. The "liberals" allow absolutely no freedom of thought.


4 posted on 02/08/2007 10:39:16 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Froufrou
honest research could be blackballed in favor of promoting a "consensus" view.


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5 posted on 02/08/2007 10:40:18 AM PST by TLI (ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA, MMP AZ 2005, TxMMP El Paso Oct+April 2006 TxMMP Laredo - El Paso)
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To: presidio9

Global warming turns people gay.


6 posted on 02/08/2007 10:41:43 AM PST by Lazamataz (Global warming turns people gay.)
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To: Froufrou

It was scientific consensus that put Galileo in jail.


7 posted on 02/08/2007 10:42:28 AM PST by Reaganesque
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To: Froufrou

It's called ''Stalinism''


8 posted on 02/08/2007 10:42:56 AM PST by Lexington Green (Medical Marijuana - - When ''Compassionate Conservative'' is an oxymoron.)
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To: Lazamataz

Are you asking me or telling me?


9 posted on 02/08/2007 10:43:06 AM PST by presidio9 (There is something wonderful about a country that produces a brave and humble man like Wesley Autrey)
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To: presidio9

~snorrfle!~


10 posted on 02/08/2007 10:43:14 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou
I guess LIBERAL Austin won't be shunned.

Austin launches aggressive climate change initiative (Global warming alert)

11 posted on 02/08/2007 10:43:19 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Austin is the home of STUPID people.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Governor Kulongoski (if that really is his name) has a great future ahead in the Algore Administration.


12 posted on 02/08/2007 10:43:48 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Froufrou
"Global Warming... it's a great gig daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarling! Now excuse me.... I got an itch."


13 posted on 02/08/2007 10:46:41 AM PST by avacado
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To: Arrowhead1952

"Austin now operates about 4,800 vehicles, most of which use diesel fuel or gasoline. Starting immediately, replacement vehicles will be hybrids or those that can run on biofuels. The total cost of a typical midsize sedan, including fuel and maintenance, is 45 percent less than a hybrid, according to a city analysis."

ARGH! Why are you pinging me this??? Don't you know that Austin is only one hour from me and I've already got veins popping on my neck???

;o) Like everyone in Austin is getting a new Hybrid. Yeah.


14 posted on 02/08/2007 10:47:36 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: Froufrou

One thing about the consensus in science - it is most often famously wrong.


15 posted on 02/08/2007 10:48:37 AM PST by Bon mots (An Islamist wants to kill you. A Muslim merely wants you dead.)
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To: avacado

Bwahahahahaaha.....


16 posted on 02/08/2007 10:49:09 AM PST by Froufrou
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To: FormerACLUmember
The "liberals" allow absolutely no freedom of thought.

Thoughtcrime.

17 posted on 02/08/2007 10:50:14 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: Froufrou

It will be interesting to see how long the LOONS OF THE LEFT will hang on to Global Warming as the "next tit that needs to be milked"...probably until they figure out the real scientific world has debunked it, and the world has awaken to their money-grubbing scam. Then, of course, it will be some other manufactured disaster that they will identify as their next source of money.

Such trash.


18 posted on 02/08/2007 10:50:26 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: sionnsar

The "liberals" allow absolutely no freedom of thought.
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Of course not. They are socialists.


19 posted on 02/08/2007 10:51:15 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: Froufrou

Bottom line: No one knows what in Hades causes global warming. However, the politicians and H'weird will have the answers but won't tolerate any dissent.


20 posted on 02/08/2007 10:53:25 AM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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